The MacRumors Show: visionOS 2.2 and Where Vision Pro Goes Next

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On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show, we discuss visionOS 2.2 and Apple's potential move into iPhone-connected glasses.

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visionOS 2.2 brings Wide and Ultrawide modes to the Vision Pro's Mac Virtual Display feature. Mac Virtual Display allows Apple's Vision Pro headset to be used as an external display for a Mac. The feature has been available since visionOS was first released earlier this year, but the wider options are new in the latest beta. Apple has previously said the ultrawide version of Mac Virtual Display is equivalent to having two physical 4K displays sitting side by side on a desk.

We discuss the experience of using the new Mac Virtual Display modes and whether it makes the Vision Pro more useful. visionOS 2.2 will likely be released to the public in December alongside iOS 18.2, iPadOS 18.2, macOS Sequoia 15.2, watchOS 11.2, tvOS 18.2, and other updates.

We also talk through where Apple's Vision product line is headed next. There are now a multitude of rumors from reliable sources about a new, M5-powered Vision Pro headset with Apple Intelligence that is apparently set to launch next year.

Apple is also said to be "seriously considering" a new Vision device that offloads computing to a paired iPhone and serves as an accessory for watching movies, similar to Xreal.

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Top Rated Comments

anthogag Avatar
anthogag
21 weeks ago
Hartley is not qualified to talk about Vision Pro anymore. It stopped when he returned it. You guys do the weekly podcasts. Vision Pro is an important Apple device and it is the future. Someone give Hartley a Vision Pro to use after updates and right before they make a podcast.

A lighter less expensive Vision Pro connecting to the iPhone would be excellent.

The VP is a cutting edge product. Hartley wearing wired buds for the podcast does not 'look good'. Perhaps it signals he is in flatland. ?

Also, it might be better if both of you wear Vision Pro devices when you do a podcast about Vision Pro. :cool:
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Expos of 1969 Avatar
Expos of 1969
21 weeks ago
Welcome to our new host... Hartley!! He took over this episode with truthful comments and at about the 30 minute mark Dan had a look on his face which said....I have kids to feed, a mortgage and bloody Hartley is telling Cook that he has ****ed up. I fully agree Hartley, keep it up.
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
philfloyduk Avatar
philfloyduk
21 weeks ago
I will not stop saying this until people start listening…

There are comfort issues with the Vision Pro, however, you do get used to it if you wear it regularly.

If you do not want to get used to it, use the Annapro headband. Yes, I understand you shouldn’t have to buy accessories to be comfortable wearing a device that costs as much as this, but it is so cheap it doesn’t matter.

Apple finally gave us something amazing that wasn’t quite ready, but we got it, and despite its flaws, it’s amazing.

GET THE ANNAPRO HEADBAND AND TAKE THE LIGHTSEAL OFF!

You won’t regret it ??
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
kcwookie Avatar
kcwookie
21 weeks ago
I have no idea what people are talking about when it comes to the AVP being uncomfortable to wear after 30 minutes. I’m 64 years old and I can wear eight hours a day to get my work done.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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Expos of 1969
21 weeks ago

Gee I wonder why Hartley is not having a good day. It'll be fine Hartley. Anyway, I think he should have kept the product and used it more ESPECIALLY since he didn't like it. Shouldn't you really get more than a first impression on something you're going to talk about this much?
From what was said in previous episodes, Harley bought it with his own funds. I do not fault him for returning it. However, if Dan and MacRumors expect him to talk knowledgeably about the product at length in numerous episodes then they should buy it for him. A cost of doing business correctly.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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SGSfanboy
21 weeks ago
I don’t have an AVP. But two things come to mind after watching the video discussion. Apple should have sold the AVP at a loss at the beginning to get an enthusiastic user base and get developers on board. The $ loss would have been pocket change to Apple. Then subsequent versions would have made a (possibly small) profit once the the manufacturing numbers ramped up. It wouldn’t necessarily be a mainstream product but a halo product to show what Apple technology can achieve.
Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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