The MacRumors Show: Apple Intelligence and iOS 19 ft. Mark Gurman

Bloomberg's Mark Gurman joins us on this week's episode of The MacRumors Show to discuss the controversy surrounding Apple Intelligence, what to expect from iOS 19, and more.


With the context of his insider knowledge, Mark gives us his thoughts on Apple's recent announcement that it is further delaying the major Siri ‌Apple Intelligence‌ features that it expected to release as part of iOS 18. He gives us a sense of the scale of the crisis and when to expect the remaining features to arrive. We also discuss his recent report about a significant internal reshuffle to move ‌Siri‌ from artificial intelligence chief John Giannandrea to Vision Pro chief Mike Rockwell.

We delve into the complete redesign rumored for iOS 19, which is believed to be part of a wider push to bring a visionOS-style design language to all of Apple's major platforms. It is expected to be the biggest redesign of the iPhone's software since iOS 7. Mark tells us what users are likely to make of the update and why Apple is devoting so much energy to the redesign amid the problems with ‌Apple Intelligence‌. He also tells us about the sort of new ‌Apple Intelligence‌ features to expect in iOS 19 and the plan to progressively improve ‌Siri‌ through to iOS 20.

We discuss why the delay in releasing the remaining ‌Apple Intelligence‌ features has delayed the company's long-rumored smart home hub product and the experience it is expected to offer when it launches later this year. We also touch on Apple's problems with allocating developer resources, ‌iPhone‌ 17-exclusive ‌Apple Intelligence‌ features, whether Apple is doing enough to course-correct on AI, Apple TV+ viewing habits, and more.

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If you haven't already listened to the previous episode of The MacRumors Show, catch up to hear our discussion about Apple's recent announcement that several of its most highly anticipated ‌Apple Intelligence‌ features are to be delayed.

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Top Rated Comments

cutlub Avatar
8 months ago
I cannot believe how toxic things have become that people would personally attack Dan. It's shameful. Please don't listen to these miserable people, Dan.

I get everyone cannot stand Tim Cook, Apple Intelligence, AVP, Camera Control, 16e, every single thing Apple does. But aiming your vitriol at Dan and anyone here on MR is completely unacceptable.
Score: 16 Votes (Like | Disagree)
greenbreadmmm Avatar
8 months ago
19 feet!
Score: 16 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Apple Knowledge Navigator Avatar
8 months ago
Gurman reviewing the podcast:

I expect this to be a great podcast. I’m led to believe that I will be invited as a guest. Consumers will most likely listen to this podcast because podcasts generally are audio-based. It could rain tomorrow.
Score: 15 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Lounge vibes 05 Avatar
8 months ago
I think the most interesting thing about this podcast was a very quick Gurman remark that flew by.
When talking about the redesign of all of the operating systems in relation to bugs…
“the bug things is what you and I, we talk about on your podcast. That's what the MacRumors people talk about.
That's what we talk about on Twitter and threads and whatnot. Two billion plus people use these devices. Fewer than 1% of people are complaining about bugs.”

Another interesting remark regarding the new Siri lead:
“So here's the backstory. Rockwell has been one of Siri's fiercest critics within the company for years. He had been complaining to senior VPs and other executives at Apple for years that Siri is junk. It does not work. He wanted it to be a core part of the Vision Pro. It ultimately didn't become one.”
Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)
vegetassj4 Avatar
8 months ago

For a moment I read that as a “19ft Mark Gurman”. Scared the life out of me! ?
Yeah, he's just a tad under 8'



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Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Mrkevinfinnerty Avatar
8 months ago
Gurmy is much shorter than 19 feet according to people who are familiar with the matter.
Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)