The MacRumors Show: Two Weeks Using watchOS 10, iOS 17, and macOS Sonoma

After spending two weeks using the beta versions of watchOS 10, iOS 17, iPadOS 17, macOS Sonoma, and tvOS 17, we discuss our experiences and highlight our favorite new features from each of the updates on this week's episode of The MacRumors Show.


‌watchOS 10‌ is a major update for the Apple Watch, overhauling its entire user interface. The update refocuses the Apple Watch around a scrollable view of widgets, remaps the buttons, and rearranges the Home Screen of apps. Almost all of Apple's stock apps have received complete redesigns centered around a vertically scrollable view of pages. The update also brings Time in Daylight tracking to Apple Health and adds mood logging to the Mindfulness app.

‌iOS 17‌ introduces features like StandBy mode, Contact Posters, and Live Voicemail, while ‌iPadOS 17‌ makes some meaningful enhancements to Stage Manager, introduces external camera support, and brings over Lock Screen customization, Live Activities, and the Health app from the iPhone.

‌macOS Sonoma‌ adds an integrated video screen saver and wallpaper experience, desktop widgets, Safari web apps, and Game Mode. tvOS 17 is a modest update that redesigns the Control Center and introduces FaceTime via Continuity Camera.

A large number of new features, like interactive widgets, improved autocorrect, the Messages redesign, offline maps, authentication code autofill, Apple Music crossfade, Note links, support for multiple timers, video call reactions and presenter overlays, and improved PDF support, come to several of Apple's updated operating systems.

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Top Rated Comments

StellarVixen Avatar
12 months ago

One could laugh at why they call this site MacRumors when all they do is discuss iOS mostly in this show. Here's 30 seconds of tVOS and it about the revised control center, and then when one participant discussing using Sonoma just fine and the other was hesitant to update because he has all his work on his Mac. So ASR backups/restores are trivial, but one should always have fallback measures in place when running early betas otherwise why even did your toes in the water. :D
Forum is old, lot of things changed in meanwhile. When forum was created, Apple was Mac. Today, Apple is iOS. Even services is bigger than Mac nowadays.

Sad, but true.
Score: 9 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Realityck Avatar
12 months ago

Find it very frustrating that you speak about IOS but haven’t tested a lot of this but still want to talk about it, also the same applies to the UK, testing I read your Site atleast 2 a day this is the second time I’ve watched videos as the first one put me off for the same reason, if you discuss some then test it
One could laugh at why they call this site MacRumors when all they do is discuss iOS mostly in this show. Here's 30 seconds of tVOS and it about the revised control center, and then when one participant discussing using Sonoma just fine and the other was hesitant to update because he has all his work on his Mac. So ASR backups/restores are trivial, but one should always have fallback measures in place when running early betas otherwise why even dip your toes in the water. :D
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Deemilo Avatar
12 months ago
Find it very frustrating that you speak about IOS but haven’t tested a lot of this but still want to talk about it, also the same applies to the UK, testing I read your Site atleast 2 a day this is the second time I’ve watched videos as the first one put me off for the same reason, if you discuss some then test it
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
citysnaps Avatar
12 months ago

One could laugh at why they call this site MacRumors when all they do is discuss iOS mostly in this show.
Maybe change it to MacWhiners?

Come for the excellent tech reviews (thanks Dan and Hartley). Stay for the inane audience whines that follow.
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
segfaultdotorg Avatar
12 months ago

Where does it says it’s using the final versions?
The headline, unless it's fake news!
Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Realityck Avatar
12 months ago
Wednesday brought beta 2 of the OS's. Yes most of us thought it was the smoothest dev betas we experienced in awhile comparably. Using iOS/iPadOS 17, MacOS 14, and tvOS 17 betas.
Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)

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