The MacRumors Show: iPhone 17 Designs Revealed!

On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show, we discuss the recently leaked design of the iPhone 17 "Air" and ‌iPhone 17‌ Pro.


Earlier this week, a report from The Information's Wayne Ma revealed that the ‌iPhone 17‌ Air will have a thickness of between 5mm and 6mm, which would make it the thinnest iPhone ever. In comparison, iPhone 16 models are 7.8mm thick and iPhone 16 Pro models are 8.25mm thick.

Due to this ultra-thin design, some compromises are said to be necessary. The device currently lacks a physical SIM card tray, a speaker on the bottom edge, an ultra-wide camera, and ultra-fast mmWave 5G support. Unsurprisingly, the device will also have a "smaller battery" than current iPhones, but it remains to be seen how battery life ultimately compares.

With just one camera, the unit is expected to be large and centered on the rear of the device for a dramatically different look compared to current models. The device should launch in September 2025 alongside the standard ‌iPhone 17‌ and ‌iPhone 17‌ Pro models, with no ‌iPhone 17‌ Plus expected.

Meanwhile, the ‌iPhone 17‌ Pro and ‌iPhone 17‌ Pro Max are expected to offer some of the most significant design changes in years. Both models will drop titanium and return to an aluminum frame for a more lightweight design and feature a new part-aluminum, part-glass rear to enable continued support for wireless charging. The camera bump is also purportedly larger and rectangular, cut into the aluminum top half of the rear rather than 3D glass.

We discuss the implications of these design changes and more. The MacRumors Show also has its own YouTube channel, so make sure you're subscribed to keep up with new episodes and clips:

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On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show ('https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/iphone-17-designs-revealed/id1602394741?i=1000678642968'), we discuss the recently leaked design of the iPhone 17 "Air" and iPhone 17 Pro.

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Earlier this week, a report ('https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/25/iphone-17-air-features-reported/') from The Information's Wayne Ma revealed that the iPhone 17 Air will have a thickness of between 5mm and 6mm, which would make it the thinnest iPhone ever. In comparison, iPhone 16 models are 7.8mm thick and iPhone 16 Pro models are 8.25mm thick.

Due to this ultra-thin design, some compromises are said to be necessary. The device currently lacks a physical SIM card tray, a speaker on the bottom edge, an ultra-wide camera, and ultra-fast mmWave 5G support. Unsurprisingly, the device will also have a "smaller battery" than current iPhones, but it remains to be seen how battery life ultimately compares.

With just one camera, the unit is expected to be large and centered on the rear of the device for a dramatically different look compared to current models. The device should launch in September 2025 alongside the standard iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 Pro models, with no iPhone 17 Plus expected.

Meanwhile, the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max are expected to offer some of the most significant design changes ('https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/25/first-iphone-17-pro-design-leak/') in years. Both models will drop titanium and return to an aluminum frame for a more lightweight design and feature a new part-aluminum, part-glass rear to enable continued support for wireless charging. The camera bump is also purportedly larger and rectangular, cut into the aluminum top half of the rear rather than 3D glass.

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Clickbait title/misleading post.

1. The referenced report is discussing prototype designs, not confirming final iPhone 17 design.

2. iPhone 17 designs haven’t been “REVEALED”.

Synonym of revealed=announced.

Please cite source of iPhone 17 design announcement (a formal public statement about a fact) - who at this stage, since final design hasn't been formally confirmed - only Apple could do.

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bpa1093 Avatar
6 days ago at 09:40 am
Why thinner and not just better battery life?
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Mitochris Avatar
6 days ago at 11:36 am

What I most want to know is not discussed. What's projected the battery life? How much does it weigh? What are the dimensions? How much memory is standard, and how much can be configured? What's it going to cost? What type of display? What chip?
Don’t you also want to know whether safari feels snappier?
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10anta Avatar
6 days ago at 11:44 am
Would be very surprised if the design doesn’t draw heavily on the first iPhone

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victorvictoria Avatar
6 days ago at 12:40 pm

Don’t you also want to know whether safari feels snappier?
I don't care how Safari feels. Safari can take care of itself.
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jaymc Avatar
6 days ago at 11:13 am
My iPhone history - 3gs, 4, 5, 6+, 10, 11pro, 14pro ... and, agree with you, the 10 was the best.
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