The MacRumors Show: Vision Pro Deep Dive Following Our WWDC Demo

On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show, we take a deep dive into the experience of using Apple's Vision Pro headset and what to expect when it goes on sale next year.


Dan is one of the lucky individuals who has had a chance to try out Vision Pro, so we discuss his personal experience with the device. We talk through the headset's comfort, external battery pack, eye-tracking, and input mechanisms, as well as its price point, and whether it can replace any existing Apple devices.

We reflect on Vision Pro's eye tracking technology and what sort of trajectory the product line is likely to follow. We also touch on whether the 15-inch MacBook Air has lived up to expectations now that users have got their hands on it.

Listen to The MacRumors Show in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Pocket Casts, Castro, Google Podcasts, or your preferred podcasts app. You can also copy our RSS feed directly into your podcast player. Watch a video version of the show on the MacRumors YouTube channel.


If you haven't already listened to the previous episode of The MacRumors Show, listen to our discussion with Andru Edwards and Kevin Nether from the Apple Podcasts studio in Apple Park to discuss first impressions of the Vision Pro headset and the wave of other announcements the company made at WWDC this year.

Subscribe to ‌The MacRumors Show‌ for more episodes, where we discuss some of the topical news breaking here on MacRumors, often joined by exciting guests like Arnold Kim, Ben Sullins, Mark Gurman, Marcus Kane, Christopher Lawley, Frank McShan, David Lewis, Tyler Stalman, Jon Prosser, Sam Kohl, Quinn Nelson, John Gruber, Federico Viticci, Sara Dietschy, Luke Miani, Thomas Frank, Jonathan Morrison, iJustine, Ross Young, Ian Zelbo, Jon Rettinger, and Rene Ritchie. You can also head over to The MacRumors Show forum thread to engage with us directly. Remember to rate and review the show, and let us know what subjects you would like the podcast to cover in the future.

Popular Stories

Apple Shopping Event 2025

Apple Announces 2025 Black Friday Event, Here's What You Can Get

Thursday November 20, 2025 6:28 am PST by
Apple's annual four-day Black Friday through Cyber Monday shopping event is returning on Friday, November 28 through Monday, December 1 in many countries, including the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, the United Kingdom, Belgium, the Netherlands, Sweden, Thailand, and others. During the shopping event, customers can get an Apple gift card with...
iOS 26

iOS 26.2 Adds These New Features to Your iPhone

Thursday November 20, 2025 10:50 am PST by
iOS 26.2 is currently in beta testing. The upcoming update includes a handful of new features and changes on the iPhone, including a new Liquid Glass slider for the Lock Screen's clock, offline lyrics for Apple Music, and more. In a recent press release, Apple confirmed that iOS 26.2 will be released to all users in December, but it did not provide a specific release date. Keep reading...
hikawa phone grip stand apple%402x

Apple Launches Second Limited-Edition iPhone Accessory in a Month

Friday November 21, 2025 3:53 am PST by
Apple has begun selling the Hikawa Phone Grip and Stand, a new limited-edition iPhone accessory designed with accessibility in mind. Designed by LA-based Bailey Hikawa to celebrate the 40th anniversary of accessibility at Apple, the grip uses magnets to securely snap onto any iPhone with MagSafe. Apple says it can be removed with ease, and doubles as a stand with two different viewing...
iPhone 17 Pro Cosmic Orange

10 Reasons to Wait for Next Year's iPhone 18 Pro

Wednesday November 19, 2025 4:00 am PST by
Apple's iPhone development roadmap runs several years into the future and the company is continually working with suppliers on several successive iPhone models at the same time, which is why we often get rumored features months ahead of launch. The iPhone 18 series is no different, and we already have a good idea of what to expect for the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max. One thing worth...
ipad black friday 2025

The Best Early Black Friday iPad Deals

Thursday November 20, 2025 10:20 am PST by
Black Friday is just over a week away, and iPad deals have finally started to flood in at retailers like Amazon and Best Buy. Below we're tracking discounts on every current generation iPad, including lowest-ever prices on M3 iPad Air and M5 iPad Pro, plus steep markdowns on iPad and iPad mini. Note: MacRumors is an affiliate partner with some of these vendors. When you click a link and make a ...
ipad mini 7 feature red and blue

iPad Mini 8: Four Major New Features to Expect

Wednesday November 19, 2025 7:50 am PST by
Apple's eighth-generation iPad mini is highly likely to arrive next year, offering a significant refresh of the device with at least four major new features. OLED Display The next-generation version of the iPad mini could feature an OLED display, as part of Apple's plan to expand the display technology across many more of its devices. Apple's first OLED device was the Apple Watch in 2015, ...
watchos 26 workout app

Apple Watch Users Claim Workout App Is Now Worse in Every Way

Thursday November 20, 2025 7:01 am PST by
Apple Watch owners have been voicing their frustration online over changes to the Workout app that Apple introduced in watchOS 26, with many finding the redesigned interface makes starting exercises difficult and exasperating. When Apple launched watchOS 26 in September, the Workout app went from large, easily tapped workout tiles to a scrolling, corner-button interface. Instead of tapping a ...
apple wallet drivers license feature iPhone 15 pro

Two More U.S. States Commit to Offering iPhone Driver's Licenses in Apple Wallet App

Thursday November 20, 2025 8:21 am PST by
In select U.S. states, residents can add their driver's license or state ID to the Apple Wallet app on the iPhone and Apple Watch, and then use it to display proof of identity or age at select airports and businesses, and in select apps. Earlier this week, Illinois became the 13th state in the U.S. to offer the feature. Subsequently, we shared a list of additional states that are committed...
android iphone airdrop quickshare

iPhone Users Can Now AirDrop Files to Android Devices

Thursday November 20, 2025 9:47 am PST by
Google today announced a new cross-platform feature that allows for file sharing between iPhone and Android users. With AirDrop on the iPhone and QuickShare on Pixel 10 devices, there is a new file transfer function available. The file sharing option works on Apple devices that include iPhone, iPad, and Mac, along with the Pixel 10, Pixel 10 Pro, Pixel 10 Pro XL, and Pixel 10 Fold....

Top Rated Comments

DrNevs Avatar
32 months ago
Dan’s audio is out of sync. One episode of not having to edit the podcast himself and he’s forgotten how to edit ?
Score: 9 Votes (Like | Disagree)
vegetassj4 Avatar
32 months ago
Deep Dive huh?



Attachment Image
Score: 8 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Analog Kid Avatar
32 months ago

Dan’s audio is out out sync. One episode of not having to edit the podcast himself and he’s forgotten how to edit ?
Seems that clapboard serves a purpose...
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
sjsharksfan12 Avatar
32 months ago
I'm glad Dan enjoyed the headset. It sounds like a great product, even though I still get Ready Player One dystopian vibes when I saw it. I won't pay 4000 for it so it will be a few years before I can try it out, but it seems to already be a hit.

Looking forward to your IOS 17 and Watch OS10 coverage next week.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)
ninethirty Avatar
32 months ago

They do? Prove it. I’ve read pretty much everything that’s been written about it and the overall consensus is that the product is isolating and extremely unlikely to ever be universally popular. Furthermore, no one has worn this thing for eight straight hours as far as we know, so yeah. Let’s go with reality (also known as “my take” by you.)
Can you post some of those takes you just referred to? The overall consensus that it's isolating and extremely unlikely to be universally popular?
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)
MacAddict1978 Avatar
32 months ago

https://slate.com/technology/2023/06/apple-vision-pro-ar-vr-google-glass.html

https://www.theverge.com/23751675/apple-vision-pro-vr-headset-ios-17-mental-health-mood-journal

https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/13/vision-pro-society/

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-vision-pro-doomed/

https://www.macworld.com/article/1945323/apple-vision-pro-isolation-intrusion-google-glass-metaverse.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2023/06/09/apple-vision-pro-product-magical-launch-airpower-warning/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2377029-apple-vision-pro-wont-solve-the-problems-with-virtual-reality/

https://www.howtogeek.com/897418/vision-pro-fails-to-fit-into-apples-digital-wellbeing-mission/

https://www.makeuseof.com/why-we-dislike-apple-vision-pro-headset/

And so forth.
These do not really support your initial statement. Being isolated from other is NOT the same as the device's technical field of view being isolating while wearing it.

Almost all these articles are citing it would be "isolating" if you're the only one wearing the bloody thing.

But nice try.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)