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Apple Seeds iTunes 10.5.1 Beta 2 for Continued iTunes Match Testing



Apple has issued Beta 2 of iTunes 10.5.1 to developers tonight to provide further testing for the upcoming iTunes Match service:
iTunes 10.5.1 beta 2 is now available and includes a number of important stability and performance improvements. iTunes Match is also now available for testing on Apple TV.

iTunes Match stores your music library in iCloud and allows you to enjoy your collection from anywhere, any time, on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, computer and now your Apple TV.
iTunes Match is Apple's $25/year subscription service that will match your existing iTunes library with 256-Kbps versions in the iCloud. The service was expected to be launched at the "end of October", but has since missed that target.

Apple has provided no new estimate for a launch date for the iTunes Match service.

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41 months ago
Apple TV Support FTW
Rating: 7 Votes
41 months ago
Don't worry people. just means there is still bugs. It will come out when it comes out. Not like anyone can't survive with out it.
Rating: 7 Votes
41 months ago
As a Beta user of iTunes Match since Day 1 I must say that you WANT to wait. It's been buggy as all hell. I noticed already that this release is MUCH faster so far.

Please be patient people... Apple just wants to do the right thing and release a great product. That's the difference between Apple and everyone else.
Rating: 6 Votes
41 months ago
Just get it right Apple. I am seriously considering paying for this.
Rating: 5 Votes
41 months ago

Apple TV Support FTW


This is definitely awesome. So how does this work for Apple TV? Is this streaming or temporarily stored on the ATV HD, and then automatically wiped after you're done?
Rating: 5 Votes
41 months ago


Isn't it "amateur hour" to let your developers' betas expire? That really looks bad....


Really? I'd say letting people use an old beta for ages is even more amateurish, but who am I to talk.
Rating: 5 Votes
41 months ago
agreed, get it right the first time. don't mind the delay.
Rating: 5 Votes
41 months ago

If I understand correctly, Apple wants me - the average Mac-fan - to pay $25 a year in order to:
1. Lose control and privacy over my music library.
2. Become completely dependent on a good internet connection at any time.
3. Become completely dependent on iCloud to work well and smoothly at any time.
4. Listen to all my stuff on downgraded quality.

I certainly missed something, but I'll stick to old school methods:
1. I'm the only one to rule over my music collection. I decide who to share my music with. I'm still the king in my little network :o
2. I can listen to anything I like everywhere, anytime, even if the net's not available :)
3. My music collection (with backup) is stored in my iPod and hard drives that I have physical control over. If anything fails I see it right away and can deal with it :eek:
4. All my stuff has a bit rate of at least 320 kbps and I don't want anything less ... even if my ears can't hear the difference :rolleyes:
5. I'll spend $25 a year on music instead :p



It's the man keeping you down.
Rating: 5 Votes
41 months ago

If I understand correctly, Apple wants me - the average Mac-fan - to pay $25 a year in order to:
1. Lose control and privacy over my music library.
2. Become completely dependent on a good internet connection at any time.
3. Become completely dependent on iCloud to work well and smoothly at any time.
4. Listen to all my stuff on downgraded quality.


Well in regards to your points
1. Your music library is still on your computer, but Apple will know what you do have.
2. An internet connection is only required for any songs you haven't gotten from the cloud. Those you have downloaded to a device are already there.
3. If the the cloud is down, the music your download is still already on your device. Just can't get everything new.
4. Well 320 is more than 256, but I am in the opinion of if I can't tell, then it doesn't matter.

All my music won't fit on a 64 Gig device anyways. My core songs are on a play list which I will download those so I have them everywhere and everything thing else I can get if I want to hear them.

My family members can also access everything. My iTunes is the master catalog of music which everyone can choose from. I will rip the cds, place them on the network drive and then send them into the cloud.

Not an Apple fanboy, but I am seeing everything working together well. Still positive my Evo 3D is better than the iPhone but Match gives me one more thought of if I should switch to an iPhone (the small screen keeps me away still...lol)
Rating: 3 Votes
41 months ago
OK, I have been working with it all day yesterday and here are some things that I have discovered.

1. You can delete from the cloud. It is a little kludgy but it works. When you are in iTunes you can delete songs from your library and there is a check box to delete from iCloud as well. So, with things that got moved up that you didn't want moved you can get them off the cloud. However, if you add it back to your library, it will get re-uploaded unless you turn match off. And when you turn match back on again, it will find it again. So, no way to just say "ignore these songs in my library". Not great, but a step forward.

2. The matching is still really buggy. First, I found that the names that iTunes gives when ripping tracks doesn't always match what is in the store. Second, random songs on very mainstream albums don't match. I even tried re-ripping the album and got the exact same result. This is frustrating for me since I rip mostly in lossless so I have nine tracks in 256k and one lossless in the cloud. Not what I want.

3. Anything below 128k seems to be excluded, although there were a few weird exceptions.

4. It appears that you can no longer manually cut & paste artwork, or drag artwork. You can still add from the info window, but that is by track. I always embed my artwork in the file so that it transfers correctly to other devices. I have seen this as a bug in previous updates (10.0 from 9) that got fixed, but I verified that this is true for both the Mac and Windows versions at the moment.

Here's a suggestion for managing your library. Use one iTunes library as the master. Set-up a separate, empty iTunes library to see what is happening and to manage the cloud. You would have to make sure that it is not pointing to your other library. For example, you could use a second user account on a Mac to do this, or a windows machine (I'm using my Parallels to do this). Once I have uploaded from my main library, I go to Parallel and see how the files are in the cloud. Since nothing is downloaded, I get to see exactly what the cloud looks like. Then I can remove any titles from the could without messing with my library.

While I criticized the matching, most of my library matched well and the functionality is getting better. I know this thread is a little old now, but Apple is working out the functionality and I'm sure that they are getting valuable feedback from seeing what gets matched and what doesn't as well as feedback about the user experience.

Hope this helps some of you.
Rating: 3 Votes

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