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Apple's Glass Roofed Retail Store Approved Without Even Discussion


The Santa Monica Dispatch's Peggy Clifford attended yesterday's Santa Monica Planning Commission meeting and reports that Apple's new Third Street Promenade building was quickly approved, without even discussion.
The surprise was that the staff put the project on the Consent Calendar. I cannot remember any large, complex commercial project ever going on the Consent Calendar. Apple was the only item on last night’s Calendar. And, under the rules, the Consent Calendar is approved as a whole – unless someone wishes to pull at item for discussion.

And in that crucial blink, the commissioners approved the Consent Calendar (aka Apple Glass House), and that was that – except for a staff report on the redesign of the Project Case List, after which they adjourned.
The proposal first came to light yesterday, and detailed a new 8,084 glass-roofed Apple Store to be built on the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica, California. The store will be built in the space of an old Borders Bookstore.


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44 months ago
I am not surprised, some of the Apple stores are almost tourist attractions.
Rating: 31 Votes
44 months ago

Where does the rain go?


Non issue, rain would never touch an Apple store. It goes around.
Rating: 20 Votes
44 months ago

It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...


It would probably be more surprising if they didn't gush over him given what Steve Jobs and Apple has done for Cupertino.
Rating: 17 Votes
44 months ago

It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...


Professional? They're local government. These are your neighbors with a little bit of power, not some 5-term US Senators.

Plus, look, the buildings Apple designs look amazing, and they will bring in lots of money to the local community. Why wouldn't you kiss Apple's ass?
Rating: 13 Votes
44 months ago

And after the decision all the board members walked out and collected their nice new shiny MBA's.


lol

Wouldn't it be hot inside?? Think greenhouse effect... I mean they will obviously use ACs...but still I don't think that's a good design....coming from Apple I expect more...

What's more...on a sunny day...I wouldn't want to feel like I'm "shopping" for products OUTSIDE...feels very cheap...feels like buying something from an illegal street merchant..


There are many things you can do to glass to help counter heat and an over abundance of sunlight, these things could easily be done to the roof without people noticing. Do you really think the Apple designers have no taken this into consideration and just plan on throwing plain old regular glass on the ceiling?

It's somewhat disgusting the way planning comities / local governments pander to Apple.

Reminds me of the recent Cupertino city council meeting. The 'officials' were practically gushing over Steve Jobs and showing off their iPad's - it was cringeworthy.

At least pretend you're a professional...


What would you have liked them to do exactly? The see a great looking structure being built by a reputable company who does a great job on their stores. A company who's stores bring in a lot of customers and revenue. This is an existing space being changed around for a new business. What should there concerns have been exactly where they needed to debate this?
Rating: 12 Votes
44 months ago

I dont understand the point to this question. It would go to the same place as a regular roof.... On the roof and then it would flow off to the ground.


Look at the picture. The other roofs are flat and must have hidden drains. The water doesn't overflow down their sides.

So I think he's talking about how the Apple store's curved roof doesn't even appear to have gutters. Of course, that's almost certainly artistic license in that drawing. I highly suspect it does have hidden drains along the edges.

PS. Good thing it's not white painted glass. It'd be delayed for years while they work out the light leak and reflection issues :)
Rating: 11 Votes
44 months ago
How many birds are gonna fly into this thing? Not to mention **** all over it.
Rating: 10 Votes
44 months ago
Let's see... an abandoned Borders store that is not bringing in any tax revenue or a new Apple store that will bring in tax revenue... hmmmm... what should we do?
Rating: 10 Votes
44 months ago

Where does the rain go?


The same place it goes on any building roof: drainage.

This thread exhibits the worst characteristics of the internet. People who think they're experts on every topic under the sun, who refuse to listen to folks who actually do have some expertise, who make wild accusation without offering a shred of proof or see conspiracy theories behind every innocuous action, who are suspicious, paranoid and just plain annoying.

This Santa Monica store already exists: it's called the Upper West Side Apple Store in NYC. All the ludicrous criticisms of the design in this thread have already been addressed and answered in a store that's been open for almost two years.

During that time period, no one has burst into flames from the intense sunlight in the UWS store. Rain doesn't collect on the glass roof but goes into drainage. It is not a greenhouse hot inside but cool and comfortable during the summer, warm and toasty during the winter. The glass is regularly cleaned by maintenance.

Only in a geek fan site would people carp about a store design that employs an abundance of natural light. Talk about playing up to stereotypes.
Rating: 8 Votes
44 months ago

I agree...looks beautiful in a mockup but the reality of every large-window building I've seen is littered with bird poop and even dead birds. It's going to either be daily cleanings or it's going to look bad in between cleanings.


The glass roof of the atrium in the Covent Garden store in London is always clean. Apple can afford to clean it everyday. They can also afford to spend millions on a temporary store in Manhattan while the SoHo one is refurbed.

They don't cut corners. It will look spectacular and remain so, I'm sure.
Rating: 6 Votes

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