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Apple, Google, and Others in Negotiations With Regulators Over Anti-Poaching Agreements

The Wall Street Journal reports that the U.S. Department of Justice is in "advanced" talks with Apple, Google, and several other large tech companies looking to reach a settlement over an investigation of anti-poaching agreements made with each other.

Several of the U.S.'s largest technology companies are in advanced talks with the Justice Department to avoid a court battle over whether they colluded to hold down wages by agreeing not to poach each other's employees.

The companies, which include Google Inc., Apple Inc., Intel Corp., Adobe Systems Inc., Intuit Inc. and Walt Disney Co. unit Pixar Animation, are in the final stages of negotiations with the government, according to people familiar with the matter.

The report notes that some of the companies are expressing more willingness than others to settle with the government over antitrust issues, but that all parties are hoping to avoid a court battle over the issue.

As the Justice Department was beginning its investigation last year, it was reported that Apple and Google had had an informal agreement not to cold-call each others' employees in efforts to lure them away, but that employee-initiated job moves between the companies were permitted. Apple CEO Steve Jobs had reportedly offered a similar proposal to Palm, which then-CEO Ed Colligan rejected.

The companies involved have argued that the no-poaching agreements are key for fostering innovation, as they allow the companies to collaborate on projects while offering some measure of reassurance that their partners won't seek to hire away their key employees. The Department of Justice argues, however, that even the banning of the cold-calling practice seen in the least restrictive of the deals between companies has an adverse effect on employee wages and job mobility, as such head-hunting is a primary method of hiring in the tech industry.

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19 months ago
Their companies... they're free to do what they want as far as HR goes. Not seeing the issue there.
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19 months ago
It's none of the government's business how Apple and Google decide to deal with seeking out new talent.

No one was stopped from jumping ship, they just agreed not to proactively go and look for top talent in each other's company.

And if anyone has worked in the tech industry (heck any large corporation) you know that looking for a better job is always on your mind after a certain length of time where you are.

Geeze, STAY OUT OF BUSINESS Government!
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19 months ago
With the frequency of these sort of rumors, and seeing as MR doesn't want to Page 2 this sort of news, perhaps the tabs should read Mac Rumors, Page 2, iOS (or iPhone), and insert a tab before Buyer's Guide called Legal or Industry or something like that for all the Google related, SEC, lawsuit related with a mini headline section just like for Page 2, iPhone and MacBytes in the left hand column. While interesting this is not necessarily Mac Rumors related to any sort of Apple Products, of which Page 1 has been consistently getting more and more diluted of.

IMHO.


Their companies... they're free to do what they want as far as HR goes. Not seeing the issue there.


Not to harp on this but how can you use this correctly and incorrectly all in the same one line post?
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19 months ago
this is in no way different from Intel making deals that prevent manufactureres from buyig AMD chips. This is illegal by antitrust laws and immoral because it's used to hinder individuals carreers.

The jobmarket is supposed to be a free market and not one where HR departments or managers interfere with individuals job chances.

I hope they fine the hell out of them.

To all who say there is no issue: consider the case where let's say a GE (or Pfizer or Siemens or BMW) manager starts a small project with a small company. This small companies employees will then not get offers from a world wide corporation with hundreds of subsidiaries. And we all know that employee initiated job applications have often a close to zero percent chance of success in R&D. So the outcome is: no job for you.
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19 months ago
And next, discussions about holding down wages by having things made in foreign "compounds".
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19 months ago
Boy you need to wake up andiwm - there are all kinds of safeguards, the biggest being anti-competition clauses in contracts. Any employee of this caliber would be required to sign one.

The government should stay out of this. How much time, effort and money (which the government doesn't have) has been spent on this issue.

How about spending some of that money on "egg" inspectors.

Another thing I don't understand is the ire over Apple not accepting Flash. What's the deal. Apple is not allowed to allow what it wants on their products. Apple has been one of the strongest leaders in the tech field. They all complained about Apple doing away with the "floppy drive" in its computers too but now how many have them? Floppies for the most part are a thing of the past.
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19 months ago
Personally, I see non-compete agreements as far more limiting than these non-binding understandings between companies. It's not like they are holding back individuals - they are just not actively seeking to steal key personnel. If a key employee wants to reach out to the competition, they are free to do so. However, the non-compete agreement is a pretty good deterrent. The new employer would have to really want you in order to pay for any litigation or settlement.
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19 months ago
Thus, people focus on the rights of the corporation, less on the impact on individuals.
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19 months ago
I can see why the Palm CEO didn't accept Jobs' offer; he hired two key Apple personnel to develop the Pre. It's curious that the investigation names five tech companies -- and then Walt Disney and Pixar (which have obvious connections to Jobs). I wonder if anti-poaching is common in other industries.
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19 months ago

I can see why the Palm CEO didn't accept Jobs' offer; he hired two key Apple personnel to develop the Pre. It's curious that the investigation names five tech companies -- and then Walt Disney and Pixar (which have obvious connections to Jobs). I wonder if anti-poaching is common in other industries.


sometimes some time not. It gets easier to detect in the larger one and you look at movement between the companies and see if it follows a norm. If it is below the norm from other industries it should raise a lot of red flags.

Anti poaching agreements only helps the CEO and upper management. The workers get screwed.
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