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Apple Again Hits Back at Nokia in Patent Dispute

Bloomberg reports that Apple has struck back at Nokia again in the growing patent dispute between the two companies, filing a complaint with the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) seeking to prevent the import of mobile phones from Nokia. The move counters a similar request made to the ITC earlier this month by Nokia seeking to ban the import of "virtually all" Apple products.

"Nokia will study the complaint when it is received and continue to defend itself vigorously," Nokia spokesman Mark Durrant said by text message today. "However this does not alter the fact that Apple has failed to agree appropriate terms for using Nokia technology and has been seeking a free ride on Nokia's innovation since it shipped the first iPhone in 2007."

The dispute between the two companies began in October 2009 when Nokia filed a lawsuit against Apple charging infringement of a number of its patents by the iPhone. Apple filed a countersuit in December alleging both that Nokia itself was infringing on Apple patents with its products and that Nokia was in effect holding Apple hostage in negotiations over the Nokia patents, demanding the right to iPhone-related intellectual property not deemed "essential" to industry standards.

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27 months ago
What usually happens in these cases? Is it really realistic that we won' have anymore Apple/Nokia products?
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27 months ago

What usually happens in these cases? Is it really realistic that we won' have anymore Apple/Nokia products?


No, it isn't realistic at all. It's likely they'll settle, worst case. This is how Apple tends to operate, regardless. Apple is hit with a patent suit, then Apple hits back with several more. It can get pretty vicious but dollars-to-donuts Apple already knows the likely outcome and is ready for it, whether positive or negative.

I wouldn't be too worried.
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27 months ago

No, it isn't realistic at all. It's likely they'll settle, worst case. This is how Apple tends to operate, regardless. Apple is hit with a patent suit, then Apple hits back with several more. It can get pretty vicious but dollars-to-donuts Apple already knows the likely outcome and is ready for it, whether positive or negative.

I wouldn't be too worried.


Is it known what patents Nokia wants from Apple?
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27 months ago
Nokia is making an awful loads of noise. I hope they are prepared to deal with the huge bang of the gavels in court when they are told to find someone else to troll.
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27 months ago

Nokia is making an awful loads of noise. I hope they are prepared to deal with the huge bang of the gavels in court when they are told to find someone else to troll.


What makes you think they are 'trolling'?
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27 months ago

What makes you think they are 'trolling'?


Yeah, exactly. It's pretty likely both companies are actually infringing on patents but have simply been unwilling to come to a compromise that suits them both financially.
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27 months ago

What makes you think they are 'trolling'?




The fact the Apple claims it has no problem paying "fair" royalties to use Nokia patents. Nokia wants cross-licensing, not just "fair" monetary compensation from Apple.

Apple refuses to license Apple tech to Nokia, so Nokia throws a fit in court. That's my understanding of things - I could be wrong.

If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck...
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27 months ago
Nokia is not a troll, by definition. Patent trolls generally do not utilize the patents they own.

What Apple is doing is called "mutually assured destruction." Most tech companies file patents as a protection mechanism in addition to the traditional reasons. That way, when someone sues them they can dig up their own patents that are potentially being infringed and counter sue. This gives the initiating party (Nokia, in this case) an incentive to settle.

At the same time, both Apple and Nokia will be working on potential work-arounds for the patents they are being sued for. If an injunction is handed down, they can move to this work-around as a backup plan. It's unlikely that either company has a patent so fundamental that a work-around cannot be constructed.
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27 months ago
1. Declare Finland a terrorist state
2. Send in troops
3. Bomb them into stone age
4. "Rebuild" using US companies ONLY

Problem solved!!!! ;)
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27 months ago

The fact the Apple claims it has no problem paying "fair" royalties to use Nokia patents. Nokia wants cross-licensing, not just "fair" monetary compensation from Apple.

Apple refuses to license Apple tech to Nokia, so Nokia throws a fit in court. That's my understanding of things - I could be wrong.

If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck...


Couldn't you say the same thing about Apple then? Nokia is refusing to license Nokia technology to Apple, and Apple is throwing a fit in court.
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