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Mac OS X Darwin x86 Kernel Still Open?

In response to reports last week that Apple had closed the source to the Intel version of Mac OS X kernel, an Apple employee responded saying that nothing has been announced yet, so all discussion remains speculative.

Just to be clear, Tom Yager was *speculating* about why we have -- so far -- not released the source code of the kernel for Intel-based Macintoshes. We continue to release *all* the Darwin sources for our PowerPC systems, and so far has released all the non-kernel Darwin sources for Intel.

Nothing has been announced, so he (and everyone else) certainly has the right to speculate. But please don't confuse "speculation" with "fact."

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75 months ago
"But please don't confuse "speculation" with "fact."

Classic. Very interesting nevertheless.
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75 months ago
looks like we all jumped the gun on this one
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75 months ago
While he didn't confirm the rumor, he didn't deny it either.
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75 months ago
Interesting. Apple employee posting by name to an Apple mailing list. Wonder if he entered the fray because he knows something different than the speculation, or because he's been taking a different side of an internal argument and hasn't given up yet.

I guess this could mean "delayed release". The code that's available always a generation behind production code? (Opps! More speculation... =P)
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75 months ago

But please don't confuse "speculation" with "fact."


tom yager is obviously not a macrumors regular!
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75 months ago
What's up with the rumourmill these last two weeks or so?

MacRumors, AppleInsider, ThinkSecret... all reporting stuff the news sites have posted days ago.

Ars had it Monday morning http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/5/22/4055 and Daring Fireball the day before.
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75 months ago
wow, i dont' even know what ANY of that means:confused:
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75 months ago

looks like we all jumped the gun on this one


Not necessarily. His quote isn't really all that informative. He's simply saying that Apple hasn't announced anything, and so until they do, it's simply speculation.
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75 months ago

Interesting. Apple employee posting by name to an Apple mailing list.

Why? The do this all the time.
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75 months ago

... The code that's available always a generation behind production code? (Opps! More speculation... =P)


No need to speculate here. Open source code for 10.4.6 is on Apple's web site
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.4.6.x86/
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