CeBit: PPC 970's up to 1.8GHz

As always, full human German translation would be appreciated.

Addendum:

Translations provided by Escher and cuby. Escher's provided here:

Surprisingly, we found out that the PPC presentation announced in advance [of CeBIT] was cancelled. [Could this have been at Apple's request?] When we asked, we learned that the expected processor (2.3 to 2.5 Ghz) was actually the generation after the next [i.e. post initial 970], and that we should thus not expect an introduction [of the 2+ Ghz iron] anytime soon. According to IBM, "current" PPC 970 processors (still produced with a .13 micronc process, which applies to the upcoming 2.3/2.5 Ghz processor as well), clocking up to 1.8 Ghz, could be used by Apple in the future. As always, however, it has been impossible to optain more detailed information.

IS there anything about a Mac timetable in there, or even just an idea if Macs will use them? I'm fairly sure this will come to pass, but I'd hate to get screwed on my dreams.

I translated it through google:
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Surprisingly we had to state that the conception of the PPC 970 already announced in the apron was unfortunately called off. On demand we experienced that the expected processor (2.3 to 2.5 GHz) represents the view on the processor generation after the next and not on an imminent appearance to be counted is. PPC 970 processors (still in 0,13 Micron manufactured, applies also to for the coming 2.3/2.5 GHz processor) with an achievement of up to 1,8 GHz, which could be blocked according to IBM also by Apple in the future, is current. But one always does not know more details like.
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the translation is a little wierd, but that last line about Apple blocking the 1.8Ghz processor, that bothers me, I had a feeling they might do something like that, holding the processor back so they can make thier modest jumps and pump the market for a constant flow of money. I could be wrong,

[Admin Edit: Please see full translation below]


What do you guys think?

Originally posted by MacManiac1224
What do you guys think?

I think we need a real translation. You're making a lot of assumptions based on an automated translation.

Has anyone tried to price comparable 64bit platforms? A dual 1.05GHz Sun Blade 2000 is $19,995. My guess is this is going to hurt Sun (sunw) bigtime.

Oracle is in RC 2 stage (forever) but I would be willing to bet the cost analysis of an XServe with dual 1.8Ghz versus a comparable Sun machine will scare the hell out of them (sun).

Most business I've been in run Solaris (64bit) for database applications. If Apple can enter this market aggressively and quit the guessing games so business can plan, there could be a very bright future for enterprise apple computers afterall. Granted this is just my dream. Apple will have to stick with it for 5+ years before most businesses will even let them in the door. If they can create a sales team (like IBM, Sun, MS, etc have) that demonstrates their systems that are: faster, cheaper, higher quality, and stable, they will turn some heads.

Oh well, guess we'll all have to wait and see. BTW anyone heard anything about the 15" Aluminum Powerbooks? I'm getting tired of waiting (maybe they are waiting on the 17" to actually ship).

This is a quick translation of the part of the macguardians article re the PPC970:

"Surprisingly we had to realise that the presentation of the PPC970, as announced before, unfortunately was cancelled. Upon request, we found out that the expected processor (2.3 to 2.5 GHz) is just a preview on the next but one processor generation and that one should not expect it anytime soon. Currently, PPC970 CPUs (still manufactured in 0.13 µm, like the upcoming 2.3/2.5 GHz CPU) are available in speeds up to 1.8 GHz that - according to IBM - might be used by Apple in the future. Exact information on this is still not available."

Hope that helps,
Michael

Pretty much all I can say is: bring it on! :D I don't care if it's a 1.8 GHz processor, especially if it's a dual architecture. I want a new processor so that the FUTURE of Macs will be as bright as possible. Yes, of course it would be better if Apple came out with 2.5 GHz PowerMacs, but really, it doesn't matter as long as they lose the G4 and LONG TERM, the 970 can be a viable processor, scaling to higher clock rates with smaller processes. I frankly don't understand the people who say that 1.8 is unacceptable. If it's this processor, I really don't care. Of course, dual would be better, too.

My only concern at this point is cost. But hopefulyl Apple will realize that they need to price slightly lower than current PowerMacs (as they do with most every rev.) to sell these & that they can't charge a huge premium just because it's a swanky new processor.

Originally posted by arn
As always, full human German translation would be appreciated.

Well, here's the original German passage relevant to IBM's PPC 970 and Apple:

Erstaunlicherweise mussten wir feststellen, dass die schon im Vorfeld angekündigte Vorstellung des PPC 970 leider abgesagt wurde. Auf Nachfrage erfuhren wir, dass der erwartete Prozessor (2,3 bis 2,5 GHz) den Ausblick auf die übernächste Prozessor-Generation darstellt und nicht mit einem baldigen Erscheinen zu rechnen ist. Aktuell sind PPC 970 Prozessoren (nach wie vor in 0,13 Mikron gefertigt, das gilt auch für den kommenden 2,3/2,5 GHz Prozessor) mit einer Leistung von bis zu 1,8 GHz, die laut IBM auch von Apple in Zukunft verbaut werden könnten. Aber Genaueres weiß man wie immer nicht.

And here's my human translation:

Surprisingly, we found out that the PPC presentation announced in advance [of CeBIT] was cancelled. [Could this have been at Apple's request?] When we asked, we learned that the expected processor (2.3 to 2.5 Ghz) was actually the generation after the next [i.e. post initial 970], and that we should thus not expect an introduction [of the 2+ Ghz iron] anytime soon. According to IBM, "current" PPC 970 processors (still produced with a .13 micronc process, which applies to the upcoming 2.3/2.5 Ghz processor as well), clocking up to 1.8 Ghz, could be used by Apple in the future. As always, however, it has been impossible to optain more detailed information.

As convention demands, text in square brackets represents my own additions.

HTH,
Escher

PS: The two MacGuardians state that they have scheduled an interview with a Microsoft representative for tomorrow. They also state at the bottom of the page that they'll post a full first-day report by this evening.

Well that proves it. The 970 "will" hit 2.3-2.5 on .13um. That bodes well for the .09um parts that will most likely be coming late next year.

I would like to see Apple at least have one Dual 970 based system if not all. That level of speed increase in Macs would generate a frenzy ...even in this weak economy.