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IBM PowerPC Announcement: 64-Bit, 1.8GHz

This Forbes article (courtesy of MacSurfer) brings us the first news of IBM's new PowerPC Chip that has been speculated about for the past few weeks. According to the article (which references a Monday announcement), the new chip is due in late 2003 and will start at 1.8GHz.



Meanwhile, rumors of Apple involvement continues... but no official stance just yet:


    An industry source said Cupertino, California-based Apple would use the chip in its Macintosh computers.

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122 months ago
This is good news and all, but late 2003 and we're still stuck with just 1.8Ghz (I know it says starting at, so maybe a top speed of 2.2Ghz, if we're lucky).
Don't flame me for this, but, Intel and AMD will probably have introduced brand new lines of processors by then running at 4Ghz+...somethings not quite right there, we need more POWER :(
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122 months ago
is this story based on fact, or speculation, is what i'm wondering. 1.8 Ghz, not bad compared to the 1.4 stuff some people speculated. The gap will have greatly widened by then, hopefully there will be some secrets up apple's sleeves. (if it is based on official information)

On another note, I got the first comment! (bahhh!!!!)
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122 months ago

Originally posted by bobindashadows

On another note, I got the first comment! (bahhh!!!!)

No u didn't! :D :p
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122 months ago
Late next year...sounds reasonable. I'd rather get a PowerPC type chip...ah well, I'll buy a powerbook soon, get the aging G4 :(
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122 months ago
lovely.

the holy grail "G5" we've all been waiting for...

but still sucking wind at a meager 1.8 GHz. And not for another year. By then you should be able to get a cheap 5 GHz box.

:rolleyes:
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122 months ago

Originally posted by edesignuk
This is good news and all, but late 2003 and we're still stuck with just 1.8Ghz (I know it says starting at, so maybe a top speed of 2.2Ghz, if we're lucky).
Don't flame me for this, but, Intel and AMD will probably have introduced brand new lines of processors by then running at 4Ghz+...somethings not quite right there, we need more POWER :(



Probably not 4Ghz, but at least 3.7 Ghz I'm guessing, AMD's Clawhammer will be a 3400+ (about 3Ghz I think) so Intel would hve at least caught up to that since the AMD chip is going to be released in the first quarter.
A 1.8 Ghz Power4mini-me will likely kick some serious ass, but it just doesn't look that fast, Intel and AMD are way past 1.8 Ghz and will be even farther by the time this gets released.
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122 months ago
It's not all about Mhz though... we'll see...

arn
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122 months ago

"This is the time to introduce a 64-bit machine capable of being used on a desktop,"

As much as most posters would want to see this "lite" chip in the near future, I think IBM has positioned itself well against the 64bit competition from Intel and AMD. The 1.8 GHz clock speed is seriously impressive, seeing as the hammer is around the 800Mhz mark (there was a review on anandtech a while back). Even though MHz ain't everything :)

I'm guessing this Power 970 (speculation about single-core looks correct) will supercede some motorolla 85xx chip (85xx possibly in January?) since the release date of the Power chip is late 2003

Guess we'll get some more tidbits on the chip come the demos/papers/speeches of the microprocessor forum...

-- Dan =)

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122 months ago

Originally posted by e-coli
lovely.
but still sucking wind at a meager 1.8 GHz. And not for another year. By then you should be able to get a cheap 5 GHz box.

:rolleyes:


hahaha. No, you won't be able to get a 5GHz box by the end of next year, but there will be a P4 at 4ghz. With the new hyperthreading support, don't expect P4 to average over 2 ops per cycle, probably around 1.5.
If the word so far is correct, the "meager" IBM chip will have a max of 8 ops per cycle... figure an average of around 4 ops per cycle if you look at the PPCs history.
I expect it will easily do twice the work per cycle as a next-gen P4. Try doing high precision math and it will pull way ahead.

1.8GHz, if the other rumors are correct, will be very very powerful. 2+ is always better, but a 1.8 GHz 64bit chip is pretty sweet. Just wait till the Mac clusters start posting scores with this chip...
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122 months ago

Originally posted by edesignuk
This is good news and all, but late 2003 and we're still stuck with just 1.8Ghz (I know it says starting at, so maybe a top speed of 2.2Ghz, if we're lucky).
Don't flame me for this, but, Intel and AMD will probably have introduced brand new lines of processors by then running at 4Ghz+...somethings not quite right there, we need more POWER :(


Although it goes against the grain of having discussion groups based on rumors, wait until the week has played out and some technical details have become available.

We need throughput (power if you wish to call it that). But we probably need memory bandwidth before we need Mhz (as Arn sez later as well). a g4 with an internal clock rate of 2Ghz would probably not be much faster than a 1.25Ghz G4.
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