Taiwanese Apple Suppliers Face Falling Stock Prices Amid Ongoing Concern Over Weakened iPhone X Demand

I avoided both phones and stuck with my 6s this year as a protest to Apple’s price increases and ridiculousness. Glad to see they’re feeling it in sales, because that’s all they listen to.

How many iPhone X do these investors expect to sell every quarter

I plan on buying one each quarter and disposing of the previous. For the freshest iPhone X possible

Silly season in full swing.

It doesn't take an analyst or business major to realize that the combined launch quarter and holiday shopping season would be good. But after that is over, how many people are going to just go out and buy a $1200 phone especially when there aren't any carrier deals that make the price good enough to jump?

Where does Apple go after $1200? What's next? $1500? Where does it end?

I want it to flop. Apple deserves a reality check

Do nothing and report the rumored up to 40% drop and you get fired. It's not about the Apple brand. It's about the leaders that work at Apple. Sit on your hands and do nothing, dramatically disappoint and you are OUT.

The vast majority of the world does not buy iPhones outright. I don't know where you got that. But look it up. Maybe you are spitting hairs in terms of what "outright" means?

I didn't suggest Apple has to lower the price. That's something they could do through partners. And not actually lowering the price but pushing payment options that make it seem more accessible.

I don't think the X has been on the market long enough to cause a tangible, significant reaction that is the 6.1" LCD model. I think that was already in motion BEFORE anyone could see how well the X would sell.

But believe what you wish. I try to straddle the fence around here being as objective as I can. I'm certainly no "Apple is always right" or "always wrong" guy. I've seen this particular kind of rumor too many times to take it as fact THIS time. I've seen much too much of JP Morgan shenanigans to trust anything they say. I've offered my logic of why I don't think sales are down as much as 40%. One can take that as sound or not. I fully embrace that it is speculative logic that could be wrong because sales in America are on pace.

All I seem to be getting in return is just some incredible level of blind faith that THIS particular analyst is probably right and these particular rumors are absolutely supporting a concept that Apple is doomed this time. It sounds like we don't like the X... or the notch... or the price and have decided to just pound away at this because we'd want to believe our rationalization to maybe not buy the X is shared the world over.

Market Manipulation is the name of the game. It's the American way.

The notch and thick 4mm bezel that goes around the whole phone is hideous and looks stone age. Not surprising demand is low.

I think that's the best guess in this thread.

Some of these rumors are to manipulate the stock markets to make some folks rich. Other rumors are bought and paid for by the competition to do similar things that are more targeted.

If you don't read the news, you are uninformed. If you do read the news, you are misinformed.

Apple is not going to wait around until the Q3'18 lineup can save the day if sales are way down. And Apple Marketing can do more than one thing at a time too.

Any company with a lot of cash and a lot of marketing strength would deal with a massive sales downturn by cranking up the marketing. It would be obvious. If we want to think this is about price, Apple Marketing could incentivize partners to push units for as little as free with payment plan spin.

Again, I'm not defending Apple here, or defending the X, or defending the price of the X. I'm just offering counterpoint to the "Apple is doomed" concept based on these particular reports. There are many other possibilities. How many times have we seen such rumors before and then Apple reports "best quarter ever" and so on?

Is it plausible that sales could be down on the X, due to price, due to the notch and on? Sure, it IS plausible. But is it plausible that sales are actually up too? Sure, that's plausible too. I stand by the suggestion that if sales were dramatically down, marketing efforts to move more units would be dramatically and obviously up. I'm not seeing it here in America, one of the most important markets in the world. I have not heard anyone in other major markets- such as China- comment that Apple is marketing way over and above there, nor that Apple is doing unprecedented promotional things there, etc. Could it be happening? Maybe- I just haven't seen or heard anything like that.

So I put myself in Apple's shoes. If sales of my most important product are significantly down, do I just roll with that and hope to correct it next Fall with new models? I have- as is so often slung around here- "2XX Billion in the bank" and award-winning, spectacular marketing at my disposal. Do I just do nothing more than usual and plan to shock the world with 3+ terrible quarters?

If I do that, I'm probably getting fired. Shareholders don't like significant & dramatic negative surprises with no obvious efforts to do anything about them. Board members don't like angry shareholders. Heads will roll. Since it would be my head, I want to take new, significant actions so I can buy myself more time (with head attached) for new efforts to try to fix the problem.

I'm not seeing that. And Apple would do it. I'm not hearing about it in China, etc. And Apple would do it.

I accept that sales could be down. I don't accept that Apple would do nothing special if that was the case. Thus, I speculate that sales are not dramatically down... in spite of this kind of rumor... which, in various forms, we've all seen about 50 times before Apple reports another incredible quarter.

The party will not go on forever. But the tangible evidence of inaction implies it's not going to be a "party's over" message this time. Question my logic here if you wish, but do take a good look at your own too: some analyst report (we always take analyst reports as gospel right)? JP Morgan no less- a big Wall Street bank that has a pristine history of telling only the whole truth and nothing but the truth, right? Please do a search for JP Morgan and Legal Settlements. Try this for starters ('https://www.thedailybeast.com/jp-morgan-chases-long-list-of-expensive-legal-settlements-grows-even-longer'). Some suppliers are getting less orders than expected? Apple- the supply chain master of masters- can't tap other suppliers? Other products like the non iPhone X phone might not be selling MORE than expected?

Put yourself in Apple's shoes. What would you do if sales were dramatically down? Nothing?

Where does Apple go after $1200? What's next? $1500? Where does it end?

It doesn't end. The $2000 smartphone will exist in our lifetimes