No Virtualization in Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
Macworld reports on comments by Needham and Company analyst Charles Wolf on Apple's Windows-compatiblilty plans for upcoming versions of Mac OS X.
Specifically, Wolf asked Phil Schiller about Apple's plans for incorporating "virtualization" software in the next version of Mac OS X (Leopard):
Virtualization allows users to launch a copy of Windows under Mac OS X to run applications side-by-side, while "Dual Boot" requires users to reboot to switch between Windows and Mac OS X.
There had been some speculation that Apple was going to adopt Parallel's virtualization solution since it is now promoted on their Get a Mac campaign, but was conclusion was entirely speculative. Also, early Leopard rumors claimed that it would incoporate Virtualization from Apple, but this appears to be inaccurate.
Meanwhile, Codeweavers is taking this virtualization a step further by attempting to run specific Windows applications under Mac OS X without requiring Windows to be loaded at all.
Specifically, Wolf asked Phil Schiller about Apple's plans for incorporating "virtualization" software in the next version of Mac OS X (Leopard):
[Phil Schiller] said absolutely not, the R&D would be prohibitive and were not going to do it. Our solution is dual boot.
Virtualization allows users to launch a copy of Windows under Mac OS X to run applications side-by-side, while "Dual Boot" requires users to reboot to switch between Windows and Mac OS X.
There had been some speculation that Apple was going to adopt Parallel's virtualization solution since it is now promoted on their Get a Mac campaign, but was conclusion was entirely speculative. Also, early Leopard rumors claimed that it would incoporate Virtualization from Apple, but this appears to be inaccurate.
Meanwhile, Codeweavers is taking this virtualization a step further by attempting to run specific Windows applications under Mac OS X without requiring Windows to be loaded at all.
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73 months ago
dual boot is fine with me. how else you gonna play 3d games?
There were rumors about Codeweavers being DirectX compatible, and that Half Life 2 would be able to run.
I seriously doubt that all (newest) games would run well though... :rolleyes:
Dual Booting will always be the easiest option for 3D gaming. And as most new 3D games need all the CPU power you have available, I don't really see it as a bother to have to shutdown Mac OS X, and reboot into Windows.
73 months ago
I think this is something that third party companies will be best suited for. Virtualization is cool, but I don't want Apple having to support windows stuffs to take away from the ability to make the Mac side of it all the more compelling and exciting.
73 months ago
Apple needs to treat Windows just like they did Classic. They need to minimize Windows into an emulation mode. For security purposes, a vitrual sandbox for the Windows environment and the files created in that environment (e.g. Java sandboxing and GreenBox technologies).
This is the only way to give Windows switchers the peace of mind to have a seamless environment and feel secure in their purchase.
just my $.02.
;)
This is the only way to give Windows switchers the peace of mind to have a seamless environment and feel secure in their purchase.
just my $.02.
;)
73 months ago
bah, dual boot is crap. Running windows in a little box while still within OS X is appealing; actually running windows is most certainly not. Who wants to restart all the time?
73 months ago
I guess this saves them from a lot of troubles and accusations. They would have to deal with getting all the windows apps to work inside OSX. Like when windows apps crash inside OSX. Then people might think it is OSX's fault.
responsibilities would get very messy and not easy to explain to end users.
It also encourages developers to keep developing natively for OSX.
a tactical choice.
responsibilities would get very messy and not easy to explain to end users.
It also encourages developers to keep developing natively for OSX.
a tactical choice.
73 months ago
If these new intel chips allow you to run more than one OS at a time why cant you boot Windows and Mac on the same machine at the same time? The one that is not being used would be in low power mode and when you "switch" it will power up and run full screen. I am sure they can do this without spending so much in R&D.
There is also the instant on type of boot where your OS is stored in ram and then instantly comes on after you boot up. Even if you can't run two OS at the same time they can reduce the boot time to almost zero.
There is also the instant on type of boot where your OS is stored in ram and then instantly comes on after you boot up. Even if you can't run two OS at the same time they can reduce the boot time to almost zero.
73 months ago
I gotta say that I'm getting pretty tired of hearing about virtualization and accomodating Windows on a Mac. I mean, talk about lowering the bar. Less Apple employees working on this means more working on something that actually matters. Yes, I know it's all about sales, but the focus lately seems to be Windows on a Mac ("Hello, I'm a PC" campaign) Windows vs. a Mac or whatever. How about just let the machine and program speak for themselves and let the Windows users just suffer in ignorance.
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