Apple 'Charts' Spreadsheet Application?

mmm.. think I'll stick with Excel. iWork needs a spreadsheet app, though. But what's a "consumer-orientated" spreadsheet app?

Apple need to do a really good job to beat Excel, you have to hand it to Microsoft on this one, IMO.

I find it funny how Microsoft is coming out with a competitor to the iPod and is including features in Vista that have already been in OS X for years... and everyone calls them a theif or a copycat for it. But when Apple comes out with an Excel wannabe, not a soul says that they're trying to cash in on someone else's idea. Let's face it, Excel has been around for ages, and Apple is just now coming out with their own version of it... same with Keynote (although I do find Keynote to be considerably better).

I'll be the first to say it: "Apple is stealing the idea and trying to cash in on Microsoft's work just as Microsoft did with Windows."

I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing Apple - but it's true. There are so many fanboys out there that they can't see around the fact that Apple is just as guilty as MS when it comes to taking ideas.

I find it funny how Microsoft is coming out with a competitor to the iPod and is including features in Vista that have already been in OS X for years... and everyone calls them a theif or a copycat for it. But when Apple comes out with an Excel wannabe, not a soul says that they're trying to cash in on someone else's idea. Let's face it, Excel has been around for ages, and Apple is just now coming out with their own version of it... same with Keynote (although I do find Keynote to be considerably better).

I'll be the first to say it: "Apple is stealing the idea and trying to cash in on Microsoft's work just as Microsoft did with Windows."

I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing Apple - but it's true. There are so many fanboys out there that they can't see around the fact that Apple is just as guilty as MS when it comes to taking ideas.

That's why it's called "competitor".

I find it funny how Microsoft is coming out with a competitor to the iPod and is including features in Vista that have already been in OS X for years... and everyone calls them a theif or a copycat for it. But when Apple comes out with an Excel wannabe, not a soul says that they're trying to cash in on someone else's idea. Let's face it, Excel has been around for ages, and Apple is just now coming out with their own version of it... same with Keynote (although I do find Keynote to be considerably better).

I'll be the first to say it: "Apple is stealing the idea and trying to cash in on Microsoft's work just as Microsoft did with Windows."

I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing Apple - but it's true. There are so many fanboys out there that they can't see around the fact that Apple is just as guilty as MS when it comes to taking ideas.

That's not fair to say. This spreadsheet app is not targeted at excel users. If all spreadsheet apps are just copying excel, then all computers are copies of the first mainframe. Anyway, excel is just a type of database that has a nic GUI based front end. There have certainly been front ends for databases before excel, AFAIK.

mmm.. think I'll stick with Excel. iWork needs a spreadsheet app, though. But what's a "consumer-orientated" spreadsheet app?

a spreadsheet app so that you can calculate the amount of time pend on vacation;)
no, probably marketed at schools and students, maybe people who want spreadsheets, but aren't running corporations that need every single excel feature. id certainly buy this.

I find it funny how MicroSuck is coming out with a competitor to the iPod and is including features in Vista that have already been in OS X for years... and everyone calls them a theif or a copycat for it. But when Apple comes out with an Excel wannabe, not a soul says that they're trying to cash in on someone else's idea. Let's face it, Excel has been around for ages, and Apple is just now coming out with their own version of it... same with Keynote (although I do find Keynote to be considerably better).

Excuse me? Are you suggesting Microsoft invented the spreadsheet?? (Or, for that matter presentation software?)

In case you hadn't noticed, spreadsheets have been around for a long, long time. Apple itself had a spreadsheet component in the old AppleWorks, as well as in ClarisWorks (now the new AppleWorks). It is an obvious missing piece in iWork.

Naturally there will need to be a certain amount of Excel compatibility in any Apple spreadsheet offering; that simply reflects current market realities. But please tell me what is innovative about Excel, that you expect Apple to copy. Then please look again at the countless cases of Microsoft copying someone else's innovation, or in many cases buying and squashing it.

I'll be the first to say it: "Apple is stealing the idea and trying to cash in on Microsoft's work just as Microsoft did with Windows."

:eek: Goodmorning TimUSCA! Where were you born?
Remember "Lotus" and "Aldus Persuasion"?

mmm.. think I'll stick with Excel. iWork needs a spreadsheet app, though. But what's a "consumer-orientated" spreadsheet app?

Apple need to do a really good job to beat Excel, you have to hand it to Microsoft on this one, IMO.

Consumer = Not Pro ;)

It also says that Apple is not thinking of competing with Excel, so all they have to do is make an app that can add etc.

Thats all most need, and of course in great Apple style with ease of use and aqua feel :D

Excuse me? Are you suggesting Microsoft invented the spreadsheet?? (Or, for that matter presentation software?)

In case you hadn't noticed, spreadsheets have been around for a long, long time. Apple itself had a spreadsheet component in the old AppleWorks, as well as in ClarisWorks (now the new AppleWorks). It is an obvious missing piece in iWork.

Totally agree. I don't think apple is a "copy cat" in this case.

Excuse me? Are you suggesting Microsoft invented the spreadsheet?? (Or, for that matter presentation software?)

In case you hadn't noticed, spreadsheets have been around for a long, long time. Apple itself had a spreadsheet component in the old AppleWorks, as well as in ClarisWorks (now the new AppleWorks). It is an obvious missing piece in iWork.

Naturally there will need to be a certain amount of Excel compatibility in any Apple spreadsheet offering; that simply reflects current market realities. But please tell me what is innovative about Excel, that you expect Apple to copy. Then please look again at the countless cases of Microsoft copying someone else's innovation, or in many cases buying and squashing it.

FYI: Microsoft may not have invented the spreadsheet, but its first version of Excel was actually developed for the Mac way back in 1985. Talk about a role reversal...
Interestingly, I did a search on Wikipedia, and the first spreadsheet program developed for personal computers was called VisiCalc. And guess what personal computer is was developed for...

... yep, the Apple II ...

Does anybody think that the full version of iWorks 07 will ship with all brand new Macs when it comes out?