Pre-Release PowerMac/XServe Replacement CPU Benchmarks?
ArsTechnica provides a summary of some recent pre-release benchmarks of Intel's upcoming Woodcrest chip, and reports that gains of 15-40% are typical over Intel's latest Xeon-class chip (code-named Dempsey).
Woodcrest represents the top of Intel's upcoming Core 2 lineup and is targeted at "server and workstation" markets. Most speculation has centered around Apple using Intel's Conroe Core 2 "desktop" chip, but a recent page 2 rumor indicated that Woodcrest could also be in consideration. Previously Apple compared its top-of-the-line PowerMacs to Xeon-class machines.
Anandtech recently provided a sneak peek at preliminary benchmarks between Intel's Conroe compared to an overclocked AMD Athlon X2. Conroe consistently beat the AMD system, however the systems were set up by Intel. While the reviewer did not see anything fishy on the surface, the results should be taken with a grain of salt.
Currently, Woodcrest is expected next month with Conroe expected to arrive in July 2006.
Woodcrest represents the top of Intel's upcoming Core 2 lineup and is targeted at "server and workstation" markets. Most speculation has centered around Apple using Intel's Conroe Core 2 "desktop" chip, but a recent page 2 rumor indicated that Woodcrest could also be in consideration. Previously Apple compared its top-of-the-line PowerMacs to Xeon-class machines.
Anandtech recently provided a sneak peek at preliminary benchmarks between Intel's Conroe compared to an overclocked AMD Athlon X2. Conroe consistently beat the AMD system, however the systems were set up by Intel. While the reviewer did not see anything fishy on the surface, the results should be taken with a grain of salt.
Currently, Woodcrest is expected next month with Conroe expected to arrive in July 2006.
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75 months ago
Looks Like The Mac Pro's Could Be Here Within A Month. Lovely!
Doubtful. The processors will be available, but with Creative Suite still not native, QuarkXPress 7 not being Dual Binary until later this summer, and other pro apps being in a similar quandry, I think WWDC is still a good bet for replacement Powermacs.
XServe, on the other hand, is a totally different story. Just look at how long it has gone untouched. We very well could see an XServe refresh in the next month or two.
75 months ago
Hmm, what do you reckon?
Merom - Mac mini, iMac
Conroe - Powermac (or simply Mac now?)
Woodcrest - xServe
or possibly:
Merom - Mac mini
Conroe - iMac
Woodcrest - PowerMac, xServe
or even forgo Conroe altogether:
Merom - Mac mini, iMac
Woodcrest - PowerMac, xServe
or maybe...
Merom - Mac mini, iMac
Conroe - 'Mac'?
Woodcrest - PowerMac, xServe
Maybe the 'PowerMac' will move entirely into the Woodcrest server market (to the point where it and the xServe are only a form-factor apart) leaving room for a new headless Conroe 'Mac', for creative/business 'prosumer' types who don't require server power but need more expandability and choice than an iMac? Or is that lineup too crowded and overlapped?
EDIT: Forgive me, it's 3.15AM and I'm wired doing an assembly language assignment, so if I'm rambling...
Merom - Mac mini, iMac
Conroe - Powermac (or simply Mac now?)
Woodcrest - xServe
or possibly:
Merom - Mac mini
Conroe - iMac
Woodcrest - PowerMac, xServe
or even forgo Conroe altogether:
Merom - Mac mini, iMac
Woodcrest - PowerMac, xServe
or maybe...
Merom - Mac mini, iMac
Conroe - 'Mac'?
Woodcrest - PowerMac, xServe
Maybe the 'PowerMac' will move entirely into the Woodcrest server market (to the point where it and the xServe are only a form-factor apart) leaving room for a new headless Conroe 'Mac', for creative/business 'prosumer' types who don't require server power but need more expandability and choice than an iMac? Or is that lineup too crowded and overlapped?
EDIT: Forgive me, it's 3.15AM and I'm wired doing an assembly language assignment, so if I'm rambling...
75 months ago
Doubtful. The processors will be available, but with Creative Suite still not native, QuarkXPress 7 not being Dual Binary until later this summer, and other pro apps being in a similar quandry, I think WWDC is still a good bet for replacement Powermacs.
XServe, on the other hand, is a totally different story. Just look at how long it has gone untouched. We very well could see an XServe refresh in the next month or two.
XServe, definitely as soon as the chips are available... But I think that Apple will release their pro desktop at this time too. There are tons of film and video people itching for these machines. Also CS might run under rosetta fairly well with these chips' speed.
75 months ago
Doubtful. The processors will be available, but with Creative Suite still not native, QuarkXPress 7 not being Dual Binary until later this summer, and other pro apps being in a similar quandry, I think WWDC is still a good bet for replacement Powermacs.
XServe, on the other hand, is a totally different story. Just look at how long it has gone untouched. We very well could see an XServe refresh in the next month or two.
Almost every single Apple Pro App is universal. Lightroom is also universal.
75 months ago
Haven't seen too many Power Mac rumors. I, for one, would think Apple would use the new chips as an opportunity to give the Power Mac a redesign. Maybe not too drastic, but along the lines of the iBook --> MacBook redesign. At least this time it looks like Apple could announce the new Power Macs in the summer and have them shipping almost immediately. At least not a late September/early Oct. release that happened when the G5 Power Macs came out, which was a delay of 2-3 months.
75 months ago
I hope this does bode for a quicker release of a Mac Pro (PowerMac). Its the only reason I'm holding off on making an Intel Mac purchase.
Last time I bought a Mac was an iBook G3/700 back in Summer of 2002.
Gawd I need a new machine.
I think it would be more reasonable for Apple to have it set up as
Merom - MacBook, MacMini, MacBook Pro
Conroe - iMac, (maybe upper MacBook Pro)
Woodcrest - MacPro, Xserve
Remember the G5 was a Server class chip, and it is in both PowerMacs and Xserves.
Last time I bought a Mac was an iBook G3/700 back in Summer of 2002.
Gawd I need a new machine.
I think it would be more reasonable for Apple to have it set up as
Merom - MacBook, MacMini, MacBook Pro
Conroe - iMac, (maybe upper MacBook Pro)
Woodcrest - MacPro, Xserve
Remember the G5 was a Server class chip, and it is in both PowerMacs and Xserves.
75 months ago
Almost every single Apple Pro App is universal. Lightroom is also universal.
Not all of the creative world runs on Apple's software solutions.
As for what I personally see future lineups as, I think Conroe is actually going to end up in the iMac. So here is what you'd see:
Merom: Macbook/Macbook pro (once they transition from Yonah)
Conroe: Mac Mini and iMac... Mac Mini might end up in Merom line...
Woodcrest: Mac Pro and XServe
The only reason I think you are seeing the iMac and Mac Mini using Yonah is because Apple wanted to transition those first, and Yonah was the first Core-architecture based chip out. Yonah, however, is meant for laptops, so I think once Apple has a desktop chip available to it (especially one that is designed to allow for thin-form factor like Conroe), they will use it.
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