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Over 1000 Universal (Intel) Applications? and Windows on Mac?

EETimes reports on comments by Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer at the Morgan Stanley Semiconductor and Systems Conference.

Oppenheimer reports that there are 1000 Universal Applications today for the Intel Mac OS X. Older applications need to be recompiled to run at full speed on the latest Intel-based Macs. Previous Macs used the PowerPC processor. As Apple transitions to the an all Intel-based product line, native Intel applications may be one of major hurdles preventing many customers from upgrading.

At the Morgan Stanley conference, Oppenheimer sought to reassure the market that major Mac applications are on track to be optimized for the Intel-based Mac platform. "We have commitments from our major developers," he said. "They will release universal versions of their applications--not only Adobe, but also Quark and Microsoft."


Apple's list of Universal Binaries does indeed list over 1000 entries, though its hard to tell how many of them represent significant applications. Meanwhile, Mac Guides: List of Universal Binaries and Mac Guides: Universal Binary Games provide a more selective list of shipping Universal applications.

In a related story, ThinkSecret reports that Adobe is working hard to release Creative Suite 3 (Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, GoLive, Acrobat) as a Universal Binary by the end of the year. While initially planned for 2007, Apple and Adobe are making a push to be complete by the end of 2006.


Oppenheimer also took this opportunity to restate that Apple "will do nothing to preclude Windows from running on Intel-based Macs" which is consistent with previous comments by Apple officials. As mentioned earlier today, some analysts feel that Apple could expand their marketshare significantly when easy booting into Windows becomes available on the new Intel Macs.

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78 months ago
Soon enough, we'll be transitioned.
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78 months ago
I will need a dual boot Mac for my grad work...so I hope they aren't just whistling dixie. I don't want to buy two computers (though I will if necessary).
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78 months ago
Whoohoo! I'm like the fourth post! Sweet!

Seriously though... has anybody TRIED to run Windoze on one of the Intel Macs? I've heard nothing about this actually being done and how well it does or doesn't work. One of the creepiest things I ever saw was Windoze booting on my G4 via VirtualPC, but I confess that running Windoze on very rare and required occasions would be useful. And if we can get more switchers, then it's a good thing, right?
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78 months ago
i suppose we'll have to wait for Vista to see if that will run on the new Intel Macs as i don't think it will be possible with XP.

i hope the switch to Universal Bianaries continues to be a success. a lot of work still needs to be done though.
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78 months ago
it's exciting that adobe is trying to have CS3 ready in UB for the end of this year. The transition is going pretty smoothly so far, I'd say...
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78 months ago
When CS3, FCP in UB and Call of Duty II UB are all out, I will be in program heaven.
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78 months ago
Even if you can't get Windows to boot up on a Mac, I would assume the new versions of VirtualPC would be good enough. I would think VirtualPC could run near native speeds on any Intel-based Mac.
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78 months ago
Whew! Even if it's not a huge advance in the date, Adobe going universal sooner is wonderful news. With macs known as (and being) creative professional computers, it is absolutely key to get photoshop et. al. on universal binary ASAP. Lack of intel chips after the transition was announced was a big liability for apple, and so is the lack of high end universal software now that intel is out. When CS3 (as well as FCP, etc that we know will come) are universal apple will have no reason to go with PPC, and lose a major liability.

And 1000 apps is great, no matter how small some of those apps might be. Means software writers are making the transition, which means consumers will, too.
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78 months ago

I will need a dual boot Mac for my grad work...so I hope they aren't just whistling dixie. I don't want to buy two computers (though I will if necessary).


Do you really need a "dual boot" or would some other method of running Windows be as good? How about if you were able to run MS Windows inside a window on the Mc OS X desktop and when needed expand that window to use the full screen completely hiding the Mac desktop. I think this (running Windows along side Mac OS) is actually better than dual boot but others (mostly gammers) desagree.

If you want "windows on the Mac OS Desktop" you can have it today and there are several options.
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78 months ago
I think it will be good for Apple when Macs can run Windows. Most people won't buy Windows for their Mac, but it's VERY useful to have the option for those with no other choice--and it's a GREAT safety net to make other people comfortable with trying a "scary" new kind of computer. They may not do it, but they'll like knowing they could.

Re Adobe: they never said 2007. Their estimates ALWAYS made 2006 a possibility, and 2007 a worst case.

Now how about word on Director please :) With ability to make Projectors for Windows, OS 9, PPC OS X, and Intel OS X :)

As for 1000 apps and which are "significant"... anything that helps YOU is significant to you :)
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