Motorola MPC7457 Summary

man - what the hell... information being pulled makes me think it's accurate. and now i think that moto officially has their lips tightly around the suck pipe. moore's law is going to skip apple i guess.

I am thinking we might not see a processor go above the 2 gig mark if it even reaches that. Does the IBM chip use Rapid IO? If it does, at least that will be a great thing to have.

It's very possible that we'll see this chip used in new PowerMacs, which would likely be released on or around MWSF. 1.5GHz on a new 130nm manufacturing process would yield fun overclocking possibilities.

Is it me or is the Mhz myth getting kinda depressing with this news? I know the G4 is an incredible chip that's really fast and efficient, but I feel like I'm riding on a dying horse. I was hoping that these companies were planning for chips of at least 2 Ghz for the end of 2003. Sometimes I wish they would at least lie about the future specs...oh wait.

Originally posted by Scab Cake
Is it me or is the Mhz myth getting kinda depressing with this news?

You're problem is that you are comparing the G4 to its competition. I did that once and was told to stop whining. What you need to do is just believe Apples hype and understand that since the G4 is not running on a PC motherboard, it can be any speed Apple wants it to be and still keep up with everything out there and is worth any premium they slap on it.

Oh but it is such a good motherboard......

:D

your problem is that you're fixated on an overly simple solution, for your overly simple mind, which makes you a great target for advertising. Sheep, my friend, is what you become when you buy a product based on too simple an evaluation. You see, then the manufacturers can EXLPOIT your limited knowledge. Have you ever heard the saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"? Well, that's you buddy ol' pal. When purchasing a computer, or any product for that matter, the bottom line is QUALITY vs. PRICE. You see now that word QUALITY is not easy to put down into one thing. I know, I know, it gives you a headache to actually have to think sometimes, but trust me, learn this lesson and the QUALITY of your life will increase. So when it comes to comparing Apples to Dells, don't think "Megahertz=What the advertising keeps telling me to focus on=duh, that's what i'll do then, duh", think "I will live with this and spend much of my time on it, so I should truly enjoy the OS, it should be as fast as I can afford, it should be constructed well (or superbly in the case of Apple), and last but not least it should come from a company that I respect, and respects me as a consumer. That should help you get started my friend. Good luck!

I'm extremely anxious to see what powermacs apple releases next. I've always been a mac fanatic, ever since my first mac (first computer) the apple IIgs. Anyways, while in college, I build a quick, quick PC...just b/c there were so many programs I needed to use, that just weren't written or available for the mac (industry specific progs). I'm out now, but I decided to redo my PC. I understand the value and quality of the Mac OS...but the PC that I built for $500 (only additional parts or things I was changing...I'd say total total would be closer to $800-900) comes extremely close to rivaling the value and quality of my mac. I don't want to turn this into a PC vs. Mac fight, b/c in my opinion, each has it's strong points...but seriously...PCs can be built cheap...but not cheap in the sense of quality of build, etc. Sure Winblows sucks...but it's hard to deny the speed of this machine...mainly it's hardware. Lots of people out there like to think that Apple is just on top of the world when it comes to making motherboards, etc. as they always trash the PC world on these topics. In reality, it comes close to the opposite.

I don't know what my point of this is...but I do know that when I compare my PC hardware to that of my Mac (or new macs even)...it's getting depressing. Sure my PC isn't as cool looking as the PMacs or any mac really...and sure Winblows blows...but honestly...I do get things done on it, and the hardware options out there are incredible. I really hope that Apple doesn't lose itself in the next year or so. I know Apple's not to blame (Moto is) as they don't produce the chips...and I'm not saying they should go x86 either...all I do know is that lately I find myself often wishing that I could run OS X on my PC.


Come on Moto...come on IBM...let's get some killer chips out!

If I'm reading this right, motorola wants us to keep using maxbus for at least the next year and a half.

Unless they give us a 128MB L3 cache, I don't wouldn't care if they *did* match x86 speeds. All you mHz myth weenies keep dissing the x86 for performance on pipeline flushes. Well, look at our performance on a cache miss. Jesus. Might as well send for the data via postal mail rather than maxbus.

Originally posted by dojothemouse
If I'm reading this right, motorola wants us to keep using maxbus for at least the next year and a half.

Unless they give us a 128MB L3 cache, I don't wouldn't care if they *did* match x86 speeds. All you mHz myth weenies keep dissing the x86 for performance on pipeline flushes. Well, look at our performance on a cache miss. Jesus. Might as well send for the data via postal mail rather than maxbus.

True...wasn't there some test results out that said the 1.25's didn't really outdo the 1 ghz's by too much...indicating that the bus might just not be enough for the chip..?? Maybe it was an old test, but that's sorta what I remember. So...that doesn't bode too well for a 1.8 ghz chip being worth very much in practical terms.