Kuo: iPad Pro With Rear 3D Sensing and 'iPhone SE 2' on Track to Launch in First Half of 2020

Apple plans to release new iPad Pro models with rear 3D sensing in the first half of 2020, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.


In a research note with TF International Securities, seen by MacRumors, Kuo said the iPad Pro models will gain 3D sensing through the rear-facing camera system. Apple is expected to use a time-of-flight system, which measures the time that it takes for light to bounce off of objects in a room to generate a 3D map.

The timeframe lines up with a recent report from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, who also said Apple plans to release iPad Pro models with rear 3D sensing as early as the first half of 2020. Gurman expects the iPad Pro models to feature dual rear cameras, up from a single lens, along with a new augmented reality sensor.

Kuo also reiterated that Apple plans to release a so-called "iPhone SE 2" in the first half of 2020 too. He has previously said the device will be released by the end of the first quarter with similar features as the iPhone 8, including a 4.7-inch display and Touch ID, but with a faster A13 chip and 3GB of RAM.

The low-cost iPhone will likely start around $399 with 64GB of storage, and come in Space Gray, Silver, and Red, according to Kuo.

Kuo has made both the iPad Pro and low-cost iPhone predictions in the past, so this really only serves as an update that the plans are still on track for early next year. Apple often holds a media event in March, and it is certainly possible the new iPad Pro and low-cost iPhone could be announced then.

It is worth noting that Kuo is likely just referring to the device as the "iPhone SE 2" as an easy way to refer to Apple working on a new low-cost iPhone. With its rumored 4.7-inch display, the device would certainly not resemble the original iPhone SE in terms of size, so it could end up having a different name.

Related Roundups: iPad Pro, iPhone SE 2020

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8 months ago
I was just telling someone the other day how I wish my iPad Pro 11" had rear 3D sensing, so I can be alerted of any monsters approaching while I'm watching Netflix.
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8 months ago
More people liked the original iPhone SE because of it's small 4" display, not it's low price. The $399 price tag is very competitive, and I imagine Apple will sell millions of these devices. Also, no gold "iPhone SE 2"?
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8 months ago


We all know "SE" represents that 4" phone. This is like the time Apple said, "we killed the iPod mini and replaced it with this", when they killed nothing, because products are not alive. What they really did is just update a music player to make it thinner. This rumor is about iPhone 8 with updated A13 chip. Now, where in the hell is my small full-screen phone.

Ya'll care way too much about names.
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8 months ago
We all know "SE" represents that 4" phone. This is like the time Apple said, "we killed the iPod mini and replaced it with this", when they killed nothing, because products are not alive. What they really did is just update a music player to make it thinner. This rumor is about iPhone 8 with updated A13 chip. Now, where in the hell is my small full-screen phone.
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8 months ago


We all know "SE" represents that 4" phone. This is like the time Apple said, "we killed the iPod mini and replaced it with this", when they killed nothing, because products are not alive. What they really did is just update a music player to make it thinner. This rumor is about iPhone 8 with updated A13 chip. Now, where in the hell is my small full-screen phone.

The rumoured iPhone 12 pro with 5.4" screen and square sides like a 4/5/SE is all the phone I have been waiting for since I got an SE on release. Just have to swallow the price by keeping it 4-5 years. Hope it's true.
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8 months ago


How has NO ONE mentioned the original iPhone SE keynote yet? Apple explicitly said they were BLOWN AWAY at how many people demanded a small screen. The SE was first and foremost about smallness and appeasing the overwhelming / astonishing / surprising / researched-backed SMALL PHONE LOVER. NOT price.

The SE keynote did not say that.

In fact, referring to the 6s/6s plus, he said “...the VAST MAJORITY of our customers prefer these larger display iPhones..”.

He said, in 2015, they sold over 30M 4” screen iPhone. 30M is only 13% of iPhone sales that year.

In explaining these (modest) sales of 4” iPhones, he said “some people“ prefer smaller 4.0” phone.

But further said that many (majority in ”.some countries like China”..) of those 2015 4” iPhone customers were 1st time iPhone buyers. This was clearly budget price customers he was talking about.

Finally, he said they would “start the price” at “only $399”. Said that was the most affordable iPhone ever introduced.

Ie, low price and with a not so subtle hint that it could be further discounted later (which it was).

SE was all about low price. Introducing iPhone to 1st time customers. Those few that loved small regardless of price...with SE they got lucky and got it cheap too.
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