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Apple-Designed iPhone Modems Could Take Until 2025, Intel Confirms Interest in Its Modem Business

The Information has published a lengthy look into Apple's seemingly deteriorating relationship with Intel in terms of iPhone modems, leading to Apple's rekindled relationship with rival chipmaker Qualcomm last month.

Intel 5G Modem
The report claims that Apple's frustrations with Intel's modem efforts began much earlier than some previous reports had indicated, and involved struggles with modems for the iPhone XS, ‌iPhone XS‌ Max, and iPhone XR, not just 5G smartphone modem development that Intel abandoned last month.
It was early 2017 and Apple was preparing a new line of iPhones to be released the next year, but the Intel modem for the devices, known as the 7560, wasn't working properly, according to two people with knowledge of the relationship. […] Intel had already overhauled the modem four times to bring it up to par with the latest Qualcomm modem. But missed deadlines and continuing technical issues with the chip were making Apple executives anxious, said one of the people.

"This would have never happened at Apple under my watch," Mr. Srouji barked at his Intel counterpart, Venkata "Murthy" Renduchintala, during a meeting on Apple's campus, according to the person, who was present at the meeting.
The size and structure of Intel's mobile division made it difficult to efficiently engineer modems, with teams struggling to work together, according to multiple current and former Intel employees and industry partners cited in the report.

In a statement provided to The Information, Intel also confirmed interest in its modem business from many companies, reportedly including Apple:
We have world-class 5G modem technology that very few companies have the IP and expertise to deliver. That's why many companies have expressed interest in acquiring our cellular modem assets since our recent announcement that we are assessing our options to realize the value we have created.
While it appears that Apple and Qualcomm's multi-year licensing and chipset supply agreement will result in Qualcomm supplying modems for the first 5G-enabled iPhones, expected to launch in 2020, multiple reports have indicated that Apple is on the path to developing its own cellular modems.

According to The Information, however, those in-house efforts appear to be farther away than initially thought. During interviews, the report claims Apple told prospective engineers that it expects to have its own modem ready by 2025, far later than the earliest considered possibility of 2021.

All in all, the report reaffirms the belief that Apple was so fed up with Intel's modem struggles that it had little to no choice but to settle its bitter legal battle with Qualcomm. That should result in Qualcomm modems in iPhones for at least a few years, at least until Apple finalizes its own chip.

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26 weeks ago
That is why I do not understand why some people thought Apple could easily develop a modem (like poof! magically) and deliver the best performance that somehow is able to beat Qualcomm's? This is call pure fanboy-ism
Rating: 21 Votes
26 weeks ago
With the trillions of dollars they have, Apple is so slow.
Rating: 8 Votes
26 weeks ago
I predict Apple's 5G wireless chip will suffer the same fate as their wireless charging pad.
Rating: 8 Votes
26 weeks ago
They must be working out all of the apparent health and cancer risks associated with the 5G network... /s
Rating: 7 Votes
26 weeks ago
makes sense that its that far off, considering Apple have entered into a 6 year agreement with Qualcomm.
Rating: 7 Votes
26 weeks ago

That is why I do not understand why some people thought Apple could easily develop a modem (like poof! magically) and deliver the best performance that somehow is able to beat Qualcomm's? This is call pure fanboy-ism

It’s certainly not easy, nor is 2025 particularly surprising to those of us who have experience in the cellular modem space. It’s quite an undertaking.

But Apple has licensed Qualcomm’s 130,000+ patent portfolio and has access to the SEPs from all other patent holders (Ericsson, Samsung, Nokia, Huawei, Norte etc.) at favorable rates. They’ll also license other patents where there is additional IP Apple wishes to incorporate, or where they discover they have inadvertently infringed.

There’s no reason Apple can’t design a baseband chip that equals or exceeds Qualcomm’s. Being located in San Diego (and willing to pay top dollar), they’ll also be able to access most of Qualcomm’s talent. But it will take quite some time, and 2025 would seem to be a decent estimate.
Rating: 6 Votes
26 weeks ago

That is why I do not understand why some people thought Apple could easily develop a modem (like poof! magically) and deliver the best performance that somehow is able to beat Qualcomm's? This is call pure fanboy-ism

Yeah those comments were so ridiculous right along with the Apple should buy Qualcomm comments, some people should really read other tech blogs to understand how things actually work instead of drowning themselves in only pro Apple websites
Rating: 6 Votes
26 weeks ago

('https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/15/apple-designed-iphone-modems-by-2025/')
All in all, the report reaffirms the belief that Apple was so fed up with Intel's modem struggles that it had little to no choice but to settle its bitter legal battle with Qualcomm.


One has nothing to do with the other. Apple was ALWAYS in a position to buy modems from Intel or Qualcomm or anyone else who would sell to them.

The legal battle was over licensing fees, NOT over who Apple can buy modems from.
Rating: 5 Votes
26 weeks ago

Why didn't/doesn't Apple just buy Qualcomm?


Qualcomm isn't for sale.
Rating: 4 Votes
26 weeks ago

With the trillions of dollars they have, Apple is so slow.

Not at all. Look at how quickly Apple can deliver new emojis and animojis! Cook knows how to put the most important things first [/sarcasm]
Rating: 4 Votes

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