Pioneer Releases Wireless CarPlay Systems

Thursday May 24, 2018 7:41 AM PDT by Joe Rossignol
Pioneer has joined Alpine as the second electronics maker to release wireless CarPlay systems for aftermarket installation.

AVH-W4400NEX

Introduced at CES 2018 in January, product listings have since confirmed that Pioneer's latest AVH-W4400NEX and AVIC-W8400NEX receivers are capable of not only wired and wireless Android Auto, but also wired and wireless CarPlay, enabling drivers to connect an iPhone to either receiver via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.

Receivers with wired implementations require connecting an iPhone with a Lightning to USB cable to access CarPlay functionality.

The lower-end AVH-W4400NEX features a double-DIN design with a seven-inch resistive touchscreen. The receiver has a suggested price of $699.99 in the United States through resellers such as Crutchfield and Sound of Tri-State. It's also available for C$899.99 in Canada via Best Buy's online store.

The higher-end AVH-W8400NEX features a double-DIN design with a seven-inch capacitive touchscreen. The receiver has a suggested price of $1,199.99 in the United States through resellers such as Crutchfield and Sound of Tri-State. It's also available for C$1,399.99 in Canada via Best Buy's online store.

AVH-W8400NEX

The $500 price difference between the two receivers largely relates to the type of touchscreen used. Capacitive touchscreens—think of an iPhone—rely on the electrical charge of a finger, and are generally considered to be better than resistive touchscreens, which rely on the physical pressure of a finger or stylus.

Both receivers feature CD/DVD drives, AM/FM, HD Radio, SiriusXM compatibility, two rear USB-A ports, SD card readers, and hands-free phone calls and music playback via Bluetooth in standard AppRadio Mode.

Alpine released the first aftermarket wireless CarPlay system in June 2017. Its iLX-107 receiver features a seven-inch capacitive touchscreen and is available for a suggested price of $900 in the United States. Wireless CarPlay is also available in select new vehicles from BMW, and Mercedes-Benz starting soon.

Pioneer has also released some wireless CarPlay receivers in Europe, according to the blog CarPlay Life. Thanks to MacRumors reader Dean Cobb.

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Tags: Pioneer, wireless CarPlay
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macduke
22 months ago

The $300 price difference between the two receivers largely relates to the type of touchscreen used.


It's actually a $500 difference: $1199 - $699 = $500. That is a HUGE difference.

It's really disingenuous to charge an extra $500 just so your customers don't have to use a crappy display technology from 12 years ago. You can buy an entire 2018 iPad for less than the upcharge for a capacitive display. And no doubt said displays are probably some really awful 640x480 or 720x480 resolution. They don't even mention the display resolution so I imagine the worst, otherwise they would list it, and in the past displays on these receivers have been pretty awful.

I would buy a separate model for $599:

* Remove the DVD/CD player
* Remove the motor from the "motorized" touch screen
* Remove the satellite radio stuff
* Remove the hardware buttons
* Capacitive touchscreen

Customers buying a modern system like this don't need all that legacy garbage. They want to route their phone through their car and use it as the hub for all data connections and streaming. I think even $599 is kinda overpriced for something that is basically just a big display for your phone but I get it, you guys suck and want to milk people who have older cars. OK. But you don't have to be a jerk and ship a product in 2018 that uses a resistive display. That's just customer hostile.

I think I'm about done with waiting for a CarPlay implementation that doesn't suck. I seriously just want to buy a 2018 iPad and mount that in the middle of my dash. Holy crap. I'm not salty or anything…hah.
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diddl14
22 months ago
Why on earth do these things still come with cd/dvd drives? :confused:
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OldSchoolMacGuy
22 months ago
Cool deal but wireless CarPlay is a huge battery drain. You nearly need to plugin your phone to keep up. A wireless charger will allow you to see just a small loss after a drive to work but still won't prevent drain.

Pioneer is known for dropping support and not updating after a short period of time. They stopped issuing firmware updates for the AppRadio 3 just 4 months after release. All future updates to iOS were a crapshoot.
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vertical smile
22 months ago

Capacitive touchscreens--think of an iPhone--rely on the electrical charge of a finger, and are generally considered to be better than resistive touchscreens, which rely on the physical pressure of a finger or stylus.


I understand the appeal of a capacitive touchscreen, but there is a glare issue. One of the Pioneer head units I have is impossible to see when the sun is coming into the car from certain angles.

Many resistive touchscreens have a matted screen that doesn't reflect like the capacitive ones.
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minimo3
22 months ago
Dashmount: $12. Plus you get full functionality instead of being limited to Apple maps and a few music apps.
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jeff275
22 months ago
Wouldn't a resistive screen potentially be an advantage since you could use it with gloves? I never had a problem with resistive screens back in the day.
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oneMadRssn
22 months ago
I would think OLED screens would be perfect for cars, and at the prices they're charging for these things it doesn't see unreasonable either.

One of the main things I hate about in-car screens is how bright they are at night. With OLED being able to light up only the pixels being used, having a proper night mode would be awesome if 95% of the pixels are off.

Yet as far as I know, no car and no aftermarket headunit come with an OLED screen.
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dan9700
22 months ago
Usb 2 . it's so slow
[doublepost=1527173650][/doublepost]So many things wrong i have flagship 2017 z5000dab and the usb 2.0 is mega slow loading songs and layout is all over the place also firmware is months wait and app raido doesn't work and app isnt updated for 4 years biggger screen stay away from pioneer headunits
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OldSchoolMacGuy
22 months ago

I would think OLED screens would be perfect for cars, and at the prices they're charging for these things it doesn't see unreasonable either.

One of the main things I hate about in-car screens is how bright they are at night. With OLED being able to light up only the pixels being used, having a proper night mode would be awesome if 95% of the pixels are off.

Yet as far as I know, no car and no aftermarket headunit come with an OLED screen.


OLED can get burn-in and a car stereo generally sits on the same screen the entire time you're driving. Some elements like the album art may change, but the general controls are always there and would likely burn in with time.
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QuarterSwede
22 months ago


Pioneer is known for dropping support and not updating after a short period of time. They stopped issuing firmware updates for the AppRadio 3 just 4 months after release. All future updates to iOS were a crapshoot.

The last firmware update for my 4100NEX released in Mar 15 was in Aug 17, 2 years later. That’s better than most electronics manufacturers.
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