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Apple Has Dozens of Engineers Working on Car Operating System in Canada

Apple-car-silhouetteAt an Apple research and development facility in Kanata, Canada, Apple has two dozen former BlackBerry QNX employees helping develop a car operating system, reports Bloomberg.

The operating system is described as the "software core" of a future car platform, similar to iOS or macOS Sierra. It would be the base used to power other software, such as a self-driving car program that's being developed by a separate Apple team or a rumored heads-up display feature.

The autonomous software was only one of many features once planned to run on the car operating system. For example, Apple engineers envisioned a heads-up display showing apps such as maps that could be manipulated by the company's voice-based digital assistant Siri, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The BlackBerry employees, who work with dozens of other software engineers at the Canadian location, formerly developed the BlackBerry QNX platform, which powers many in-car infotainment systems. Among those employees is Dan Dodge, who ran BlackBerry's automotive software division and developed QNX before he joined Apple in July. Dodge is said to have a key role overseeing the development of the software project.

While the Canadian team is developing Apple's in-car software platform, several other "Project Titan" teams are working on other features. A self-driving platform simulation group, which includes VR expert Doug Bowman, has created simulators that use virtual reality to test Apple's self-driving software, for example.

Over the course of the last few months, Apple's car project has shifted focus from building a vehicle to developing a self-driving car system. Apple is said to have shelved its car plans "for now," and is instead working on a software platform that could allow it to partner with existing carmakers or return to developing its own car in the future.

Hundreds of employees on the car team have been reassigned, laid off, or have left the company since August, just a few months after longtime Apple executive Bob Mansfield took over the project. Apple has continued hiring for new software-related positions, however, and executives have given the automotive team until late 2017 to "prove the feasibility" of a self-driving car platform.

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Rogifan Avatar
130 months ago
For who? Automakers don't need Apple to build this for them. If Apple isn't building this for their own hardware it's DOA IMO.
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130 months ago
Sorry fanboys and dreamers. The Apple Car is DEAD. There is no way any car company wants to pay a royalty to Apple.

The only way an Apple car will appear is if Apple purchases an existing manufacturer.
Kinda how the smartphone market was dead in 2006 and apple was too late to the feature phone market?
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JeffyTheQuik Avatar
130 months ago
I loved working in QNX. Used it on semiconductor manufacturing equipment, where timing of gas flows was everything.
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kdarling Avatar
130 months ago
For who? Automakers don't need Apple to build this for them. If Apple isn't building this for their own hardware it's DOA IMO.
Yep, at least if the target is to make an actual car OS, not just an entertainment center OS. Apple has zero rep as a hard real time OS source, and you need 100% reliability if you want to design autonomous driving code. Not to mention long term support and legal liability.

However, if it's just entertainment and/or visuals, then those ex-BB QNX guys could no doubt give Microsoft's Sync a real run for its money.

No matter what, I just hope there's a lot less emphasis on touchscreen controls. Vehicles need physical buttons and knobs that you can use without having to look.
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SBlue1 Avatar
130 months ago
With the inherent safety of a self driving car, regulators will be relaxing the safety standards.
No more bumpers or seat-belts or safety glass, speed limits. Designers will have limitless freedom.
As long as there is one car left on the road that is human driven and can crash into you your car will need bumpers and seat belts too. So yeah your dream will just stay a dream.

You remind me of the magazines from the fifties where people thought we will have nuclear powered planes and flying cars by the seventies! LOL
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130 months ago
With the inherent safety of a self driving car, regulators will be relaxing the safety standards.
There is no evidence what so ever that self driving cars are inherently safer. It is already pretty obvious that they can screw up as easily as a human operator. Beyond that i'm not convinced of viability in anything other than optimal conditions, I wouldn't have any faith whatsoever isn a self driving car handling driving in a snow storm.

No more bumpers or seat-belts or safety glass, speed limits. Designers will have limitless freedom. Thousands of electric car manufacturers will be in business.
Occupant safety will not go down the drain just because there is a computer in the car.


In a few years, people will be designing their own cars and 3D printing them.
Not unless you are rich enough to buy the hardware required to print a car. That is a lot of capital and frankly it would be a tough business to offer to consumers. Mainly because we have a long ways to go before 3D printing is cost effective against other manufacturing methods.

That being said there are niches where 3D printing is already finding its way into the hotrod industry so one day maybe.

Download APPLE CAR-OS and off you go.
That will never happen. For one the government will be involved and even is by chance Apple tried to offer downloads you would have regulators trying to ban it. Just like they are trying to ban performance software right now. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised to see validation requirements as stringent as the medial industry suffers through.

Validation and frankly the liability that comes with this sort of software is something Apple isn't familiar with. It is a massive undertaking to prove an operating system and to validate installation for each platform it is installed upon. Further is Apple makes a mistake (just a single one) the ambulance chasers will be all over them like flies on sh3t. There is a lot of talk in these forums about lawyers going after Apple for all sorts of silly things but the automobile industry has an even longer and ongoing history of having every little mistake exposed to the world through the courts.
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