'M4 Extreme' Chip Unlikely After Apple 'Cancels' High-Performance Chip [Updated] - MacRumors
Skip to Content

'M4 Extreme' Chip Unlikely After Apple 'Cancels' High-Performance Chip [Updated]

Apple this "past summer" canceled the development of a high-performance Mac chip that would have consisted of four smaller chips stitched together, in order to free up engineering resources for a planned AI server chip, according to The Information.

M4 Extreme Cancelled
Based on the report's description of the chip, it sounds like Apple has canceled a previously-rumored "Extreme" chip for the Mac. It was previously reported that an "M2 Extreme" chip was scrapped a few years ago, but perhaps Apple had revisited the idea since then. In any case, it now sounds like an "M4 Extreme" chip is also unlikely.

Apple likely would have introduced the "M4 Extreme" in its high-end Mac Pro tower. The chip would have offered even faster performance than the M4 Ultra chip that is expected to launch in new Mac Studio and Mac Pro models later next year.

If the "M4 Extreme" were to have been a quadrupled version of the M4 Max chip that debuted in the MacBook Pro a few months ago, it would have had massive specifications, including up to a 64-core CPU and up to a 160-core GPU.

While the "Extreme" chip may be off the table once again, it seems like Apple has repeatedly shown interest in developing such a chip, so perhaps it will eventually materialize as part of the M5 series or later. For now, though, the wait continues.

Update: After this story was published, Daring Fireball's John Gruber made a good point about how there is a long, multi-year gap between Apple designing and shipping new chips. Accordingly, it is possible the latest chip canceled actually would have been an "M5 Extreme" chip or later if development was only recently ended.

Buyer's Guide: Mac Pro (Don't Buy)
Related Forum: Mac Pro

Popular Stories

iPad mini 7 Review Thumb 1 sans text

Apple Raises iPad and Mac Trade-In Values

Monday October 26, 2026 8:17 am PDT by
Apple today updated its U.S. trade-in estimates, raising maximum values across the iPad lineup and for most Macs following today's announcement of the new iPad mini. Every iPad category has gained value, although the increases are relatively modest. The iPad mini and standard iPad both rise by $20, while the iPad Air gains $15 and the iPad Pro increases by $10. The revised maximum estimates...
homeview side

Apple 'HomeView Ultra' With 9-Inch 360º Screen Detailed in New Report

Monday November 2, 2026 7:03 am PST by
The Information's Aaron Tilley today reported that Apple has been developing a larger, robotic version of the HomeView. This device has been called a "HomeView Ultra" or "HomeView Max" in rumors, but the final name might be different. Tilley said a prototype of the device is equipped with a 9-inch display on a swiveling arm, with its overall design said to look similar to Apple's old iMac G4 ...
Mac Pro Feature Red

Conversion Kit Aims to Put PC Hardware Inside 2019 Mac Pro

Monday October 26, 2026 4:24 am PDT by
Owners of Apple's 2019 Mac Pro could repurpose its enclosure for a custom PC using a conversion kit being crowdfunded by Practical Prototyping (via Hackster). The project comes after Apple discontinued the Mac Pro in March, confirming that it has no plans for future models. For owners of the 2019 Intel-based tower, the conversion offers a potential way to keep using its distinctive...

Top Rated Comments

CWallace Avatar
25 months ago

I've been wondering for years now why Apple doesn't make another dual processor Mac Pro, like they've done in the PPC and early Intel days.
The Apple Silicon architecture may not be designed for multi-processor operations so performance would not scale and you may hit issues with memory access and cache coherency.

This sounds like what is happening with these "Extreme" SoCs - the Ultra is not twice as good as the Max even though it is two Max connected directly. Two Ultras talking to each other across an external connection on a motherboard would be even worse.
Score: 16 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Jack Burton Avatar
25 months ago
Just bring out the M4 Max/ultra studio, please!



Attachment Image
Score: 12 Votes (Like | Disagree)
jb310 Avatar
25 months ago
It was really going to be called Extreme?

I guess we should pour one out for M4 Radical, M4 Totally Awesome, and M4 Most Excellent Dude. 🏄‍♂️
Score: 12 Votes (Like | Disagree)
25 months ago
This is anecdotal, but I got a M1 Ultra a couple years back to test out training some large LLM models that wouldn’t fit on NVIDIA chips like an RTX 6000 Ada. The latter has 48Gb VRAM, while the M1 Ultra has ~98Gb VRAM effectively, albeit at much slower training speeds.

It did fine for a few models, but then something bizarre happened - anything with an odd numbered batch size returned only infinite gradients and nan losses. Even numbered batch sizes could kind of train, but gradients exploded frequently. I couldn’t replicate this on my NVIDIA hardware or even a Mac M3 Max chip.

Only a hypothesis on my end, but I worry that the dye connection between chips is fragile and prone to error, particularly with these demanding high throughput actions. This can lead to otherwise normal Mac behavior, but render it useless with AI applications. My Mac M1 is still under Apple Care, but I don’t know how to even begin to describe the problem to Apple support.
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
PsykX Avatar
25 months ago
Without a different chip, the Mac Pro is dead to me :

The Mac Pro (base model) is 63% more expensive than Mac Studio.
The Mac Pro is 4.7X heavier than Mac Studio.
The Mac Pro is 14.4X bigger than Mac Studio.

The Mac Pro is exactly as powerful as Mac Studio.

I mean, it was already a niche computer before, now it's a niche of a niche.
Score: 8 Votes (Like | Disagree)
turbineseaplane Avatar
25 months ago

Apple maybe realized there's not enough demand for an Extreme chip to justify the cost of design and production.
Potential buyers of Extreme chip machines simply can't trust Apple to support them and their needs.

They've rug pulled these users over and over, and the vast majority have moved on with no interest in coming back to this sort of "relationship"

The onus is on Apple to ever show the world it can stay focused and committed to long term support that truly high end pro users demand and need.
Score: 8 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Latest Stories
Apple Black Friday Starts Early: Save on Apple Watch, MacBook Air, and More
Apple Black Friday Starts Early: Save on Apple Watch, MacBook Air, and More
14 hours ago
Top Stories: Apple's New Software Approach, iPhone Duo-Optimized Apps, and More
Top Stories: Apple's New Software Approach, iPhone Duo-Optimized Apps, and More
16 hours ago
HomeView Tidbits: Mirror, Sleep Timer, and Other Details
HomeView Tidbits: Mirror, Sleep Timer, and Other Details
1 day ago
Siri AI Still Not Enabled on HomePod Mini 2 With Latest Software Update
Siri AI Still Not Enabled on HomePod Mini 2 With Latest Software Update
1 day ago
Apple Releases tvOS 27.2.1 With Siri AI for Older Apple TVs
Apple Releases tvOS 27.2.1 With Siri AI for Older Apple TVs
1 day ago
Microsoft 365 Outage Resolving After Nearly 24 Hours
Microsoft 365 Outage Resolving After Nearly 24 Hours
1 day ago
iPhone Duo Survives 450,000 Folds, but Hinge is Weakening
iPhone Duo Survives 450,000 Folds, but Hinge is Weakening
1 day ago
Apple TV 4K Launch Day Deal Arrives at Amazon
Apple TV 4K Launch Day Deal Arrives at Amazon
1 day ago
The MacRumors Show: HomeView and Apple TV 4K First Impressions
The MacRumors Show: HomeView and Apple TV 4K First Impressions
2 days ago
YouTube App Not Working on Your New Apple TV? Here's the Fix
YouTube App Not Working on Your New Apple TV? Here's the Fix
2 days ago
Apple Meets Thai Officials Over iPhone Spyware Warnings
Apple Meets Thai Officials Over iPhone Spyware Warnings
2 days ago
Apple Shares HomeView 27.2 Release Notes With List of Features
Apple Shares HomeView 27.2 Release Notes With List of Features
2 days ago
HomeView in Québec: Apple Says Canadian French Support to Arrive in Software Update
HomeView in Québec: Apple Says Canadian French Support to Arrive in Software Update
2 days ago
Apple Watch Ultra 3 Gets Big $250 Discounts Ahead of Black Friday
Apple Watch Ultra 3 Gets Big $250 Discounts Ahead of Black Friday
2 days ago
Apple Says HomeView Sets New Record in Design-Focused Interview
Apple Says HomeView Sets New Record in Design-Focused Interview
2 days ago
Best Apple Deals of the Week: AirTag 2 Hits Record Low Price, Plus Early Black Friday Sales
Best Apple Deals of the Week: AirTag 2 Hits Record Low Price, Plus Early Black Friday Sales
2 days ago
iPhone 18 and 18e Coming in Spring 2027 With A20 Chip
iPhone 18 and 18e Coming in Spring 2027 With A20 Chip
2 days ago
King Charles to Join Elton John's Apple Music Radio Show
King Charles to Join Elton John's Apple Music Radio Show
2 days ago
Select 'Apple Home Collection' Accessories Now Available to Order
Select 'Apple Home Collection' Accessories Now Available to Order
2 days ago
Major Microsoft 365 Outage Continues
Major Microsoft 365 Outage Continues
2 days ago
Apple Launches Two Products Today
Apple Launches Two Products Today
2 days ago
Hands-On With the New Apple TV 4K and Siri AI
Hands-On With the New Apple TV 4K and Siri AI
2 days ago
Siri AI Coming to Older Apple TV 4K Models in tvOS 27.2.1
Siri AI Coming to Older Apple TV 4K Models in tvOS 27.2.1
2 days ago
HomeView Launch Kicks Off as First Orders Reach Customers
HomeView Launch Kicks Off as First Orders Reach Customers
2 days ago
Apple Continues to Move Up iPhone Duo Delivery Dates
Apple Continues to Move Up iPhone Duo Delivery Dates
2 days ago
Apple Explains How HomeView Keeps Camera Data Private
Apple Explains How HomeView Keeps Camera Data Private
2 days ago
Apple Releases Updated HomeView Software 27.2 Before Launch
Apple Releases Updated HomeView Software 27.2 Before Launch
2 days ago
Apple Adds Samsung Foldables to Trade-In Program
Apple Adds Samsung Foldables to Trade-In Program
3 days ago
Apple Sports App Now Features UFC
Apple Sports App Now Features UFC
3 days ago
Trump Says Tim Cook Should Be Nvidia CEO as Jensen Huang Resigns
Trump Says Tim Cook Should Be Nvidia CEO as Jensen Huang Resigns
3 days ago