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Apple Reportedly Wants to Have a Custom 5G Modem Ready for Use in Some Products by 2021

Friday July 26, 2019 6:05 am PDT by Joe Rossignol
Apple yesterday announced that it has agreed to acquire the majority of Intel's smartphone modem business. The $1 billion transaction is expected to close in the fourth quarter of 2019, subject to regulatory approvals.


Understandably, the acquisition may enable Apple to accelerate development of its own 5G modem, with Reuters citing a source who claims the iPhone maker wants to have an in-house chip ready for use in some of its products by 2021, compared to previously reported timeframes of between 2022 and 2025.


Apple's transition to custom 5G modems will likely happen in phases, starting with lower-end and older models of devices, according to the report. Apple has a multiyear chipset supply agreement with Qualcomm, and a six-year patent license agreement, so it certainly does not have to rush the process.

The report does not explicitly mention the iPhone, so the first product with an Apple-designed modem could very well end up being an iPad. In any case, the transition away from Qualcomm will likely take years, as its modems lead the industry in performance and worldwide compatibility.

In the interim, Intel is expected to supply LTE modems for 2019 iPhones, with Apple returning to Qualcomm for the first 5G-enabled iPhones in 2020.

Tags: Qualcomm, 5G
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TheShadowKnows!
4 weeks ago

Qualcomm is about to lose the war. Couldn't have happened to "nicer" folks.

Dude, I am amused. What has Qualcomm ever done to you, personally?

And, on topic, which company is "nice" when negotiating advantage?
[Apple told its sapphire supplier ‘Put on your big boy pants’]
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Lone Deranger
4 weeks ago
This from a company who can't even make a wireless charger? Hahahahahahahahaa.... :D






(....and before the Apple Defense League minions jump down my throat: it's a joke, relax )
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anshuvorty
4 weeks ago
I just don't understand how a change in management can result in a change of performance in these chips. Can someone explain why Apple acquiring Intel's miserable Modem's division, which couldn't produce Qualcomm-levels of performance in these 4G chips, suddenly being managed by Apple, will allow this same team to produce chips that will beat Qualcomm's designed chips in 2-5 years? If Intel couldn't make this team produce great chips, how can Apple make this same team produce great chips?

AKA, what does Apple have that Intel doesn't have?
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blcamp
4 weeks ago
Qualcomm is about to lose the war. Couldn't have happened to "nicer" folks.
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x-evil-x
4 weeks ago

In 2021 another gate will open it's called 5G Gate.

Just stop. Really?
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Abazigal
4 weeks ago

I just don't understand how a change in management can result in a change of performance in these chips. Can someone explain why Apple acquiring Intel's miserable Modem's division, which couldn't produce Qualcomm-levels of performance in these 4G chips, suddenly being managed by Apple, will allow this same team to produce chips that will beat Qualcomm's designed chips in 2-5 years? If Intel couldn't make this team produce great chips, how can Apple make this same team produce great chips?

AKA, what does Apple have that Intel doesn't have?

My guess is that Apple won't be subject to the same business considerations that Intel has.

I might be wrong, but while Apple was pretty much Intel's only customer for their modems, Intel's modems were still designed for the entire industry. When your only concern is that your own modems need only work with your own devices, as opposed to every other smartphone on the market, that gives engineers a lot more leeway on what they can do (and what they don't need to do).

So Intel's modems don't have to be strictly better than Qualcomm's. They simply need to do what Apple needs it to do, and between that and the hardware / software integration that Apple is famous for, they just might be able to trick out superior (or at least, comparable) performance.

In a sense, it's like how Apple was able to use its clout to push developers towards converting their apps to 64-bit, which meant their A-series processors no longer need to support 32-bit code, while Qualcomm's chips probably still do.
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ilikewhey
4 weeks ago

Dude, I am amused. What has Qualcomm ever done to you, personally?

And, on topic, which company is "nice" when negotiating advantage?
[Apple told its sapphire supplier ‘Put on your big boy pants’]

prob some sort of personal entitlement, seeing how qualcomm gave a hard time to apple and apple fanboys in certain shape or form feel its a personal attack on them. not saying this applies to the guy your quoting but in overall generality.
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cocky jeremy
4 weeks ago



AKA, what does Apple have that Intel doesn't have?


For one, an endless supply of cash to throw out different ideas and work on them.
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rp2011
4 weeks ago
Im not sure Apple needs to ship 5G next year. The roll-out, the technology and prices are still not quite there.
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konqerror
4 weeks ago


AKA, what does Apple have that Intel doesn't have?


Few things. One, Intel's management is crap, they're particularly bad in non-CPU products. They let marketing run the show, while the engineering is falling apart.

Second, internal politics. Infineon stuck the usual ARM cores on and sent their chips to TSMC. A big effort was spent to switch to x86 cores and Intel fabs, which was largely a waste of time and money. They also were involved in that whole effort to make smartphone CPUs ('https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors#%22SoFIA%22_(28_nm)') with an integrated baseband, which ultimately failed because nobody wanted x86 smartphones.

Third, when a company buys another one, it's an opportunity to make everybody re-interview for their jobs and fire anybody who you don't want. It's harder, politically and as morale, to do this during the normal run of a company.
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