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Samsung to Produce A9 Chips for Apple's Next-Generation Devices
Longtime Apple rival and supplier Samsung will be responsible for manufacturing the A9 chips for Apple's next-generation iPhone and iPad, Re/code confirmed today. Over the past several months, there's been a lot of confusion over whether Samsung or Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) would produce Apple's A9 chips, but recent rumors suggest that Samsung's technological advances have put it ahead of TSMC.
Apple signed a chip production deal with TSMC back in 2013 with the hopes of diversifying its supply chain sources and reducing its reliance on Samsung because of ongoing legal battles, but it has been unable to break away from Samsung for its A-series processors. Both TSMC and Samsung produced 20-nanometer A8 and A8X processors for the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus in 2014, though TSMC handled the bulk of the orders.
20-nanometer A8 chip in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, via Chipworks
At a time when Samsung's mobile division is seeing profit loss due to flagging sales, the company's semiconductor business has helped to balance out some of the losses with continued growth. During the last quarter, Samsung's chip division earned 2.7 trillion won, making supplier relationships like the one that it has with Apple highly important to the company.
Samsung is reportedly already manufacturing A9 chips for Apple, built on its 14-nanometer chip process that has outpaced TSMC's production capabilities. As detailed by Re/code, the 14-nanometer process will result in smaller chips that use less power.
Little is known about Apple's next-generation iPhone, but based on past releases and upgrade cycles, the new smartphones will use A9 chips and may feature updates to the camera. Rumors have also suggested that Apple may be planning to incorporate an A9 chip into its "iPad Pro," which may debut in the second or third quarter of 2015, and the A9 in some form will undoubtedly also make an appearance in 2015 iPad Air/mini upgrades.
Apple signed a chip production deal with TSMC back in 2013 with the hopes of diversifying its supply chain sources and reducing its reliance on Samsung because of ongoing legal battles, but it has been unable to break away from Samsung for its A-series processors. Both TSMC and Samsung produced 20-nanometer A8 and A8X processors for the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus in 2014, though TSMC handled the bulk of the orders.
At a time when Samsung's mobile division is seeing profit loss due to flagging sales, the company's semiconductor business has helped to balance out some of the losses with continued growth. During the last quarter, Samsung's chip division earned 2.7 trillion won, making supplier relationships like the one that it has with Apple highly important to the company.
Samsung is reportedly already manufacturing A9 chips for Apple, built on its 14-nanometer chip process that has outpaced TSMC's production capabilities. As detailed by Re/code, the 14-nanometer process will result in smaller chips that use less power.
That's because Samsung holds a technological edge over TSMC when it comes to the latest manufacturing process. Samsung has managed to shrink the size of the transistors on its chips to 14 nanometers -- effectively packing more processing power into a smaller space and consuming less power. TSMC is still at 20 nanometers.Samsung has not confirmed that it is producing chips for Apple, but Samsung semiconductor president Dr. Kinam Kim said in October that Samsung is expecting chip profits to grow over the coming year thanks to demand for its 14-nanometer chips.
Little is known about Apple's next-generation iPhone, but based on past releases and upgrade cycles, the new smartphones will use A9 chips and may feature updates to the camera. Rumors have also suggested that Apple may be planning to incorporate an A9 chip into its "iPad Pro," which may debut in the second or third quarter of 2015, and the A9 in some form will undoubtedly also make an appearance in 2015 iPad Air/mini upgrades.
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53 months ago
And so far, there have been little to no comments of the sort. I always find posts like this to be very oddball. This is an Apple enthusiasts board. It's to be expected, and no doubt Apple gets tons of hatred from the Samsung enthusiasts boards. You sound like you're a Samsung supporter saying this. :rolleyes:
Except Apple users used to be held to a higher standard of intelligence. That apparently has slipped significantly over the past decade.
Stories like this serve to remind all those idiots that post "Samsung sucks" and "Samsung just steal from Apple" whenever Samsung announce a new phone, that Samsung is actually a massive collection of engineering and technology divisions with areas of expertise that Apple cannot match. Hard to criticize a story reminding users that it's components are integral to Apple on many levels.
Maybe you need reminding as well. You can actually respect what Samsung manufacture without being labelled a pariah "Samsung Supporter" and also like Apple products too.
Shocking concept I know.
53 months ago
A9 chip is going to be an absolute beast. The power Apple is getting out of this, with the combination of hardware and software, is pretty staggering -- especially considering the benchmarks are competitive with Android devices running at twice the clockspeed and twice the number of cores.
Apple are definitely in this for the long run. If they continue pushing the hardware it's going to substantially pay off in 5 years.
Apple are definitely in this for the long run. If they continue pushing the hardware it's going to substantially pay off in 5 years.
53 months ago
Apple are definitely in this for the long run. If they continue pushing the hardware it's going to substantially pay off in 5 years.
"in 5 years"??? I believe Apple has already realized "substantial" several times over. They just had the biggest quarter of any company ever. That almost reads like the pay off is still way out there in the future. The way they're going, in 5 years, they might be ruling the world, er, I mean iWorld. ;)
53 months ago
Little is known about Apple's next-generation iPhone...
Guaranteed it will be thinner, lighter, and faster than the current gen. :D
53 months ago
Except Apple users used to be held to a higher standard of intelligence. That apparently has slipped significantly over the past decade.
Stories like this serve to remind all those idiots that post "Samsung sucks" and "Samsung just steal from Apple" whenever Samsung announce a new phone, that Samsung is actually a massive collection of engineering and technology divisions with areas of expertise that Apple cannot match. Hard to criticize a story reminding users that it's components are integral to Apple on many levels.
Maybe you need reminding as well. You can actually respect what Samsung manufacture without being labelled a pariah "Samsung Supporter" and also like Apple products too.
Shocking concept I know.
Your post is far too sensible for a substantial % of people who frequent this board.
I'll never understand the fanatical; almost religious, devotion some have for these companies - not just Apple but Samsung, HTC, Sony, etc. As tech. consumers we should celebrate successes from wherever they come - NEWS FLASH: it spurs innovation!!!
A few truths:
* Each of these companies has stolen, borrowed, or copied from someone else.
* In the end, they all are vying for one thing: more profits (ROI) to satisfy shareholders.
* As public companies it's their responsibility to do that.
* Blind devotion doesn't help progress it stifles it.
53 months ago
[url=https://cdn.macrumors.com/im/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif]Image (https://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/04/samsung-producing-a9-chips-for-apple/)[/url]
Longtime Apple rival and supplier Samsung will be responsible for manufacturing the A9 chips for Apple's next-generation iPhone and iPad, Re/code (http://recode.net/2015/02/04/apple-taps-samsung-to-manufacture-next-iphone-chip/) confirmed today. Over the past several months, there's been a lot of confusion (https://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/17/samsung-apple-processors/) over whether Samsung or Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) would produce Apple's A9 chips, but recent rumors suggest (https://www.macrumors.com/2015/01/26/samsung-majority-a9-chips-next-gen-iphone/) that Samsung's technological advances have put it ahead of TSMC.
Apple signed a chip production deal (https://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/28/tsmc-confirms-deal-with-apple-to-produce-a-series-chips-for-future-ios-devices/) with TSMC back in 2013 with the hopes of diversifying its supply chain sources and reducing its reliance on Samsung because of ongoing legal battles, but it has been unable to break away from Samsung for its A-series processors. Both TSMC and Samsung produced (https://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/23/iphone-6-parts-cost-samsung-a8/) 20-nanometer A8 and A8X processors for the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus in 2014, though TSMC handled the bulk of the orders.
Image (https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2014/09/A8.jpg)20-nanometer A8 chip (https://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/19/iphone-6-20-nm-tsmc/) in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, via Chipworks
At a time when Samsung's mobile division is seeing profit loss (https://www.macrumors.com/2015/01/28/samsung-reports-q115-profit-loss/) due to flagging sales, the company's semiconductor business has helped to balance out some of the losses with continued growth. During the last quarter, Samsung's chip division earned 2.7 trillion won, making supplier relationships like the one that it has with Apple highly important to the company.
Samsung is reportedly already manufacturing A9 chips (https://www.macrumors.com/2014/12/12/samsung-manufacturing-a9-soc/) for Apple, built on its 14-nanometer chip process that has outpaced TSMC's production capabilities. As detailed by Re/code, the 14-nanometer process will result in smaller chips that use less power.Samsung has not confirmed that it is producing chips for Apple, but Samsung semiconductor president Dr. Kinam Kim said in October that Samsung is expecting chip profits to grow (http://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-expects-sales-boost-from-apple-chip-deal/) over the coming year thanks to demand for its 14-nanometer chips.
Little is known about Apple's next-generation iPhone, but based on past releases and upgrade cycles, the new smartphones will use A9 chips and may feature updates to the camera. Rumors have also suggested that Apple may be planning to incorporate an A9 chip into its "iPad Pro," which may debut in the second or third quarter of 2014, and the A9 in some form will undoubtedly also make an appearance in 2015 iPad Air/mini upgrades.
Article Link: Samsung to Produce A9 Chips for Apple's Next-Generation Devices (https://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/04/samsung-producing-a9-chips-for-apple/)
Considering that TSMC right now is still producing record level of A8 (75M+ for Q2 quarter), maybe it wouldn't have the capacity to ramp up the A9 while still producing the A8. Maybe that's the reason Apple wants to alternate with Samsung.
53 months ago
Queue all the anti-Samsung comments...
I'll give it a shot. :D:D
Die Samsung Die!!
I hope that Samesung copycats go out of business.
I'll never buy anything Samsung makes. Except, of course, an Apple product that uses Samsung components.
53 months ago
So basically a rumor at this point.
This is a rumor site in case you didn't know.
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no more thinner or lighter.
I would rather it be thicker and heavier so it can fit a bigger battery.
oh... no more bending phones
That's exactly why I use a Mophie.
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