Apple Car Battery Talks Stall in Another Blow to Electric Vehicle Project

Apple's negotiations with the Chinese companies CATL and BYD about supplying batteries for its rumored electric vehicle have mostly stalled, Reuters reports.

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According to three individuals said to have knowledge of the discussions between Apple and the Chinese firms, the talks reached an impasse when CATL and BYD refused to set up teams dedicated to Apple and manufacturing plants in the United States. It has previously been reported that Apple is keen to bring at least some of the manufacturing related to the vehicle to the U.S., with particular focus on the batteries.

Apple allegedly wants to use lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery for its electric vehicle, partly because they are cheaper to produce than more expensive lithium batteries that need cobalt and nickel. The company is understood to be looking to Chinese battery manufacturers because they can make more advanced LFP batteries than their rivals thanks to battery pack technology that bolsters performance, driving range, and energy density.

CATL is the world's leading manufacturer of batteries for electric vehicles and supplies Tesla, but has been reluctant to build a factory in the U.S. due to concerns about costs and geopolitical tensions. BYD already has an iron-phosphate battery facility in Lancaster, California, but simply refused to build a new factory that would supply Apple exclusively. CATL has also found it "impossible" to set up a dedicated product development team to exclusively work with Apple due to an inability to find sufficient personnel.

CATL and BYD apparently informed Apple several months ago that they were unwilling to meet these requirements, but Apple has remained hopeful that it can reach an agreement. Apple is now being forced to consider Japanese battery suppliers, such as Panasonic, and has sent a group of staff to Japan this month to explore this possibility.

Difficulties in establishing a supply of batteries could further delay the development of the vehicle, worsening existing issues after project leader Doug Field left Apple to join Ford. Kevin Lynch, who spearheaded the development Apple Watch, is now believed to be leading the vehicle project.

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Tags: CATL, Reuters

Top Rated Comments

rpmurray Avatar
31 months ago
If Apple wants an exclusive battery plant in the US then they should be the ones paying to have it built in the US.
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
randyhudson Avatar
31 months ago
I would never buy a car from Apple. Imagine trying to get something fixed under warranty after leaving your car out in the rain.
Score: 8 Votes (Like | Disagree)
WWP99 Avatar
31 months ago
Good they want to make sure some of the battery building is done in America.
Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)
ArtOfWarfare Avatar
31 months ago
I maintain that the Foxconn car revealed on Monday is actually the Apple Car.

Everything else is just cover stories to distract and contingency plans for if Foxconn doesn't work out.

Foxconn is not a well known brand and they don't have an existing manufacturing presence in the US - it makes no sense that they would choose to start in the US of all places.

Plus they'd be going head to head against Apple. Both companies are each other's biggest partners - becoming direct competitors doesn't make sense.
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
LooZpl Avatar
31 months ago
Tesla, VW, Renault, Hyundai, Nissan - WE BUY EVERY BATTERY YOU CAN GIVE US!!! And besides, we're building our own battery factories at a cost of billions.

Apple - Well, well, build a factory in the US and give us exclusive manufacturing and engineering teams then maybe we'll buy some batteries from you.

I have absolutely no idea why Apple can't find manufacturing partners.
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
ArtOfWarfare Avatar
31 months ago

It will work out fine. Great even. This is modern Apple.

The fact the vehicle is a current project after this long indicates it will come to fruition.
They planned on building a TV for over a decade before they dropped it in favor of just letting other TVs include AirPlay + AppleTV+ and then selling a separate box that could be plugged into any other TV that didn't have those features built in.
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)

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