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Apple in 'Early-Stage' Talks With Chinese EV Battery Makers for Apple Car

Apple is in "early-stage talks" with two Chinese companies about the supply of batteries for a future Apple Car, according to a new Reuters report.

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Apple is in early-stage talks with China's CATL and BYD about the supply of batteries for its planned electric vehicle, four people with knowledge of the matter said.

The discussions are subject to change and it is not clear if agreements with either CATL or BYD will be reached, said the people who declined to be named as the discussions are private.

One of Apple's conditions for battery suppliers is said to be the building of manufacturing facilities in the United States.

However, CATL, which is the world's biggest automotive battery maker and supplies several major car makers including Tesla, is reportedly "reluctant" to build a U.S. factory because of the ongoing political tensions between Beijing and Washington, in addition to the costs that would be involved.

According to Reuters' sources, Apple is in favor of using lithium iron phosphate batteries that are cheaper to produce because they use iron instead of nickel and cobalt, which are more expensive. However, it's not clear if discussions with CATL and BYD involved any of Apple's own technology or designs.

The last few months has seen a flurry of reports, some conflicting, about potential specifics on an ‌Apple Car‌.

Apple appears to be intensely researching all aspects of car engineering and manufacturing, but there are questions around what form Apple's vehicle project may take, with some reports suggesting Apple may be looking to leverage its software and chip design expertise to create a kind of next-generation vehicle platform for other manufacturers to use.

Bloomberg in January reported that Apple self-driving vehicle is still in early development and is still at least five years away, while reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes that the vehicle is unlikely to launch until 2025 at the earliest.

Apple has also reportedly lost "several" top managers from its internal Apple Car project, codenamed "Project Titan," causing a potential setback to the launch of a self-driving car.

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Top Rated Comments

BarredOwl Avatar
71 months ago
I have zero faith Apple will ever successfully launch a vehicle.
Score: 13 Votes (Like | Disagree)
71 months ago
Is a place ruled by the Chinese Communist Party the best place to buy batteries from? I get that they will be cheapest there, but shouldn't moral considerations be taken in to account too? Aren't Apple concerned about setting a good example? I feel they enable the PLA etc with the vast sums that Apple channel their way.
Score: 12 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Absolute Trainwreck Avatar
71 months ago
I’m not very happy to see Apple continue working with a country like that after seemingly caring about it last year and announcing deals in India and other countries. Now that China isn’t a hot topic anymore they’re going back there? Blah.
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
71 months ago
Why China again?! Stop relying the Chinese still!
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Aoligei Avatar
71 months ago

I'll stick with my US made Tesla.
Some of Tesla were made in Tesla’s Shanghai factory and exported to United States
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
71 months ago

I'll stick with my US made Tesla.
Define "US made". Because I have no doubt that a sizable portion of Tesla parts and materials are either directly manufactured in China or indirectly through partners.

This is a global supply chain and China is in at the center of most supply chains.
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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