Apple Seeds Second Betas of iOS 13.3.1 and iPadOS 13.3.1 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

Mail finally working 100% after 6 months (iOS13)?

Sorry..I know, I have way to high expectations.

Hopefully, this fixes Mail...once and for all. But, it really seems like it's going to be this way from now on.

Pathetic isn't it? iOS 13 is a piece of junk compared to iOS 12. I wish I hadnt upgraded. Yes iOS 13 works but it has all these little bugs such as in Mail, Safari, and Messages.

Hopefully, this fixes Mail...once and for all. But, it really seems like it's going to be this way from now on.

Beta release notes are generally intended to document bugs impacting development and testing on iOS devices but will sometimes include more serious user-facing bugs, at Apple’s discretion. Minor bug fixes and/or security updates will be published with the public release.

The point of release notes is so people know what changed, or what outstanding bugs have been fixed so they can be tested.
They used to be a lot better at documenting it.
It’s like they’ve given up caring about the software. Some would argue they have, given the quality of it of late.

Mail finally working 100% after 6 months (iOS13)?

Sorry..I know, I have way to high expectations.

Yes, Mail & Spotlight Search for opening apps, searching for contacts, messages has also been resolved in this update. I had logged an Extended Logging session and showed them the complete mail issue & spotlight search issue and they assured me it would be fixed in an upcoming iOS release.

Looks like the speaker issue has been resolved!

Please let this fix the speaker phone issue.

Good, but at this point I’m just hoping for iOS 14 to be a Mojave release. I really do enjoy iOS 13 but it’s sooo buggy.

Fixed, Mojave was stable from the very first beta/release, Snow Leopard wasn't.
Mojave was also far more feature rich.

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iOS 13 has so far been nearly flawless for me, I do believe though that it hasn't been the greatest
for others.

what was the speaker issue?

While taking to someone using speakerphone, they could hear everything echo back to them. If they had any noise in their background it would drive them bat sh*t, at least according to my wife. Good thing this is fixed.

Why do people still expect beta versions to be as stable as officially released versions and then when theyre not, people say it's worse than the official? No **** ... it's a beta. Another thing I find funny is people complaining about iOS in general with each release saying it's worse than the last version. Try each new version of Android for awhile ... their official releases are buggier than iOS's Beta versions. iPhone users expect everything to be perfect, while Android users accept whatever is given to them while trying to convince themselves iOS is as bad or worse. Only thing Android users truly complain about is having to pay for apps and games.

Look. As a software developer and a 20 year manager of product development teams. I get very tired of these questions / statements about beta versions.

When you are brining out a totally new product and you’re in the Alpha phase it’s entirely acceptable to have totally unanticipated bugs. But when you’re just fixing existing bugs in RELEASED software. That is another story.

No patch fix OS update should ever break existing functionality. Even in beta. Period, end of story.

The only acceptable bugs should be those that are pre-existing and unresolved. i.e. you are testing a fix and the fix didn’t resolve the issue for everyone.
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android is a known mess - buggy - unstable - unoptimized, people just are use to iOS being so controlled that it usually has no issues.
I think the main problem is more people are using beta versions on their daily drivers, and it’s a lot easier to complain about every little thing and be heard than it was even 5 years ago. People are going to complain - I just focus on what issues (if any) that have an effect on my daily usage and report it and wait for the next beta or release to see if they fix it and 9 times out of 10 they do.

Hey there. Please don’t take this as trolling your post. But I just want to point out that Android has come a long long way. As long as you stick to the core OS that Google develops. When manufacturers start dumping a bunch of proprietary bs on there (cough... Samsung... cough) then you run into problems.

But I maintain two development devices at all time. iOS and Android and my Google Pixels are amazingly solid. Even on betas.

That being said. Nothing and I mean nothing beats Apple’s customer service or their premium build quality. The software however has been suffering.