Netatmo Rolls Out HomeKit-Compatible Smart Radiator Valves in the U.K.

by

Netatmo yesterday announced the availability of its new Apple HomeKit-compatible smart radiator valves in the U.K. The smart home company claims Netatmo Smart Valves allow users to control their heating on a room-by-room basis and use on average 37 percent less energy to heat their home without compromising on comfort.

The Smart Valves can be used in houses with both individual heating and collective heating systems by fitting them on hot-water radiators, where they work to regulate the temperature of each room as part of a heating schedule and adapt to the habits and movements of residents.

Vannes Iphone FR RVB HD 1200x744

For example, the bathroom is heated to 21°C during the morning, but not for the rest of the day when it is not being used; the parents' bedroom remains at 16°C during the day when it is empty, and the children's room is heated to 19°C from 5PM on weekdays when they come back from school.

In addition to dynamic temperature regulation, the valves can detect when a window is open and stop heating the room so as not to waste energy. And by utilizing smart regulation, the valves analyze external elements in real time – the weather, insulation of the house – and adjust the heating of the room to save as much energy as possible.

The user can also temporarily increase the temperature of a room at any time by manually turning the Valve or adjusting it directly from the Netatmo app, as well as via HomeKit and Google Home.

Netatmo Smart Radiator Valves are compatible with Apple Homekit, enabling users to control their heating with their voice. By simply asking Siri to change the temperature in the house, they improve their comfort at home without lifting a finger. With Apple Homekit, users can also create customised scenarios and interactions to connect smart devices together according to different combinations.

Netatmo Smart Radiator Valves join the existing Netatmo Smart Thermostat (£149) and are available in the U.K. today. They will retail for £70 each and can be found at John Lewis, Cefco, Maplin, ShopUK, Amazon.co.uk and Netatmo.com, as well as retailers for professionals Plumb Center, CEF, and Graham.

Tag: Netatmo

Top Rated Comments

NightFox Avatar
42 months ago
Based on personal use, I'd recommend anyone check-out Tado. Similar to all these other smart heating systems, but has the additional benefit of using geolocation - if everyone goes out, then the heating automatically switches off. It then monitors your location and your house temperature, plus it learns how long your house takes to heat relative to the outside temperature, so when it detects you're on the way home it knows when to turn the heating on to make sure it's up to temperature by the time you walk through the door.

I'll admit that it doesn't work 100%, sometimes it's not detected me till I've walked through the door, but I do know it's saved me literally hundreds of £ over the 3-4 years I've been using it (enough to pay for itself, I think they still even give a money-back guarantee on that), and even more since they've started doing smart radiator valves.
Score: 2 Votes (Like | Disagree)
AppleMatt Avatar
42 months ago
Thermostatic radiator valves are one of the few pieces of ‘energy saving tech’ that do actually have a measurable real-world impact on energy usage. So that’s good, as I’m tired of seeing ‘energy saving coffee machine’ etc.

But at £70 a room I think the benefit here is really the increased home comfort these offer as opposed to any saving. And in the UK we’re behind on home comfort so these genuinely are a good idea (particularly the ability to choose different times for different temperatures) in my opinion.

If anyone reading this thinks controlling radiators individually sounds like a good idea but doesn’t want techy ones linked to an app, take a look at Drayton thermostatic radiator valves.
Score: 1 Votes (Like | Disagree)
WBRacing Avatar
42 months ago

how do you use them in conjunction with eg a nest thermostat? Eg aren't you supposed to keep some of the radiators open to provide proper circulation or something?

Just as iMessage isn't compatible with Android, I am certain that these won't be compatible with Nest. They are two competing companies in the same sector.

As for the rads, it will depend entirely on how your house is plumbed up. Mine is a two pipe system so they could in theory all have a TRV, but you don't fit TRV's to rads in the same room as the master thermostat as they then might conflict with each other.
Score: 1 Votes (Like | Disagree)
WBRacing Avatar
42 months ago

10 pounds more than Elgato Eve Thermo, not sure why anyone would pay extra 10pounds for nothing... most likely it's all made by same OEM vendor...


But at £70 a room I think the benefit here is really the increased home comfort these offer as opposed to any saving. And in the UK we’re behind on home comfort so these genuinely are a good idea (particularly the ability to choose different times for different temperatures) in my opinion.

Can currently be bought for an ever so slightly more palatable £59.99 at the moment from Plumbnation.

Am tempted as I really like their thermostat and have all the weather sensors as well. Only downside is that I have quite a few rads and apart from the cost, I don't know how much more benefit I'd get over the improvements I already have got from using the master thermostats, with my upstairs and downstairs heating controlled separately.

Just to demonstrate the benefit of smart thermostat (so many times I have seen people on forums complain that they are a waste of money) - for my work I quite often get called away last minute on business. I can set the house to not heat up, saving myself money.

In addition to that though, I have extreme control as to how hot my house gets, and when, throughout the day. Further, the charts below compare heat sensor values for my dining room. The first with the boiler connected to a brand new, traditional mechanical thermostat and the second, a Netatmo. Note: Boiler timer is set to constant on.

MECHANICAL



[B]NETATMO
[/B]

Not only does the Netatmo provide a more comfortable experience, it shows how the deep cycling (hot / cold / hot / cold) of the water is avoided, which will save money. Sadly I am having some issues with my Netatmo so the top chart is the more recent. That is one win the old stats have - they seem more reliable....
Score: 1 Votes (Like | Disagree)
WBRacing Avatar
42 months ago

Could you tell me what sensor and charting software you’re using? Very interesting.

AppleMatt

Sorry, only just seen your post.

I use the Netatmo weather modules, particularly as the outdoor one links in with the thermostat to improve the heating demand prediction.

https://www.netatmo.com/en-GB/product/weather/
Score: 1 Votes (Like | Disagree)
NightFox Avatar
42 months ago

This is exactly what I am planning now Tado ('https://www.tado.com') has added HomeKit support.

I am planning to get the starter kit + extension kit. Thanks to the extension kit I should also be able to control the hot water separately. I am hoping to save some extra by not having a vat full of water kept at 65 degrees all through the night when nobody needs hot water very quickly.

Do you have any experience with their Smart Radiator valves? I was hoping to keep the front of the house that we rarely use a couple of degrees lower than the parts we often use with one of these valves.

Yep, extension kit gives you ability to control HW too. I'd advise going the self-install route as it's pretty straightforward. As regards your question, yes that can be done - I've got ours set up so in the morning, the bedroom radiators come on the same temperature as the living room, but they stay off during the day even if the heating's on downstairs, and then they come on a couple of degrees cooler late evening ready for bedtime.
Score: 1 Votes (Like | Disagree)

Top Stories

0 Deals Hero

Black Friday 2020: Best Apple Deals to Plan For

Saturday November 21, 2020 10:00 am PST by
In the lead-up to Black Friday next week, we've been putting a spotlight on the best deals coming from various retailers like Best Buy and Walmart. In an effort to further prepare our readers for the best Black Friday deals, we're breaking down what we think should be on your radar for Black Friday in 2020. Note: MacRumors is an affiliate partner with some of these vendors. When you click a...
2020 apple shopping event

Apple Offering Up to $150 Gift Card With Select Products on Black Friday Through Cyber Monday

Monday November 23, 2020 2:53 am PST by
Apple has announced its annual four-day shopping event, offering customers up to a $150 Apple Store gift card with the purchase of select products between Black Friday and Cyber Monday in the United States. The gift card values in the United States are as follows: $150 for 16-inch MacBook Pro $150 for 21.5-inch iMac $50 for 13-inch MacBook Pro $50 for MacBook Air $50 for iPhone SE,...
m1 mac mini vignette

Apple Lists M1-Based Mac Mini Logic Boards With 10 Gigabit Ethernet in Internal Parts Ordering System

Friday November 20, 2020 9:32 am PST by
While the new Mac mini with the M1 chip is only available with Gigabit Ethernet, Apple has listed multiple M1-based Mac mini logic boards with 10 Gigabit Ethernet in an internal parts list for Apple Authorized Service Providers. For every Mac mini logic board with Gigabit Ethernet in the parts list, obtained by MacRumors, there is a corresponding logic board with 10 Gigabit Ethernet:...
ipad pro 2020 display

Black Friday Week Kicks Off With Up to $150 Savings on 2020 iPad Pro

Sunday November 22, 2020 2:37 pm PST by
As we head into Black Friday week, we're seeing some of the best deals of the season so far, with Amazon and Best Buy today discounting the latest iPad Pro models by up to $150 at the lowest prices we've ever tracked on these models. Note: MacRumors is an affiliate partner with some of these vendors. When you click a link and make a purchase, we may receive a small payment, which helps us keep ...
macos big sur m1 macs restore issue

Apple Provides Instructions to Fix macOS Reinstallation Errors on M1 Macs

Sunday November 22, 2020 3:30 pm PST by
Shortly after the launch of Apple's new M1 Macs, we saw reports that attempts to restore and reinstall macOS on those machines right away could result in an installation error that would leave your Mac non-functional. Specifically, the error message would read: "An error occurred preparing the update. Failed to personalize the software update. Please try again." Over the weekend, Apple p...
iPhone 6s main

Rumor Claims iOS 15 to Drop Support for iPhone 6s and Original iPhone SE

Sunday November 22, 2020 9:25 am PST by
Apple will drop support for the iPhone SE, iPhone 6s, and iPhone 6s Plus in next year's release of iOS 15, according to a rumor shared today by Israeli site The Verifier. If the rumor is accurate, that would mean iOS 15 will be compatible with the following Apple devices: 2021 iPhone series iPhone 12 Pro Max iPhone 12 Pro iPhone 12 mini iPhone 12 iPhone 11 iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 Pro ...
new m1 chip

Craig Federighi: Native Windows on M1 Macs is 'Really up to Microsoft'

Friday November 20, 2020 11:57 am PST by
Following the release of the M1 Macs Apple executives have been doing interviews with a range of publications, and today, Ars Technica published another interview with software engineering chief Craig Federighi, hardware technologies lead Johny Srouji, and marketing VP Greg Joswiak. Much of the interview focuses on topics that the three have already covered in prior discussions, but there is ...
Walmart November Deals Hero

Black Friday Spotlight: Walmart Will Have AirPods Pro Down to Lowest Price of $169, and More Apple Deals

Thursday November 19, 2020 8:05 am PST by
We've been tracking early Black Friday deals in our dedicated Black Friday Roundup, and in an effort to prepare our readers for the big shopping event we're highlighting sales store-by-store in the lead-up to November 27. Note: MacRumors is an affiliate partner with Walmart. When you click a link and make a purchase, we may receive a small payment, which helps us keep the site running. Next ...
xlK6MS4MLqVFaskl

iFixit Shares iPhone 12 Pro Max Teardown Revealing L-Shaped Battery and Bigger Camera Module

Sunday November 22, 2020 2:53 am PST by
In the last of its iPhone 12 series teardowns, iFixit has published its iPhone 12 Pro Max disassembly, which reveals some unique differences in the design of the internals, including the full extent of the larger camera system responsible for the improved low-light performance on Apple's largest iPhone to date. On opening the iPhone 12 Pro Max, the first obvious difference compared to the...
apple leather sleeve

Leather Sleeve for iPhone 12 Models Now Available From Apple

Friday November 20, 2020 12:16 pm PST by
Apple today began selling the Leather Sleeve for the new iPhone 12 models, with the accessory having first been announced alongside the updated iPhones in October. Priced at $129, the Leather Sleeve is not a case and is designed to be removed when the iPhone is in use. It features a cutout at the front that displays the time, and it comes with a matching leather strap. According to Apple, it ...