Apple, Google and Others Set to Face Trial Over Anti-Poaching Agreements

wow - BAD JUDGES

We'll see what your opinion is if you ever get a job that you wish to transition out of, and suddenly find that no other company in your field will give you an interview.

Try not to be so simplistic in your idiotic analyses.

Baseless accusations as far as Apple is concerned. Not so sure about the others though.

And you know this because..... oh right, because in your mind, Apple can do no wrong.

Please grow up and start living in the real world. It's a corporation, like any other. They will screw over their employees to further their own interests just as fast as any other corporation. Which is to say, instantly.

Good. Enabling more competition for valuable technical staff will require these companies to raise wages and provide other benefits to their employees.

The market has to work both ways: employees are under competitive pressure to adjust their demands, and employers should be under just as much pressure to adjust theirs.

What law prevents this?

California's Antitrust Laws.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/antitrust/antitrust.pdf (http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/antitrust/antitrust.pdf)

See the Section "Other agreements among competitors" and "As a businessperson or an employee of a
business "

Remember this when someone says "Just quit, if you don't like your job!"

Some posters are naively claiming that an employee can look for work on their own. In real life, that isn't true.

1) The Valley especially is a small place, and if someone good puts out feelers to other companies, it'll leak out.

2) It puts the employee at a disadvantage, because it's risky and he could lose his current job. With poaching, he'll already know he has another job waiting.

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Poaching itself has long been a tradition in this field. Steve Jobs himself poached from Xerox Parc and Palm and all sorts of places. For that matter, when he was kicked out of Apple, he poached a lot of top Apple employees and Apple sued him for doing so.

Just look at the recent headlines. Apple has poached top employees from Samsung, United Airlines and Burberry. These are top CFOs, engineers, etc, who would not have approached Apple on their own.

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However, Jobs hated it when others poached his employees. In this particular case that Judge Koh presides over, he supposedly went so far as to threaten Palm Inc with patent lawsuits (https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1530360) if they did not agree to join in.

To which the Palm CEO emailed back to Jobs:

"Your proposal that we agree that neither company will hire the other's employees, regardless of the individual's desires, is not only wrong, it is likely illegal.[...]

Palm doesn't target other companies-we look for the best people we can find. l'd hope the same could be said about Apple's practices.

However, during the last year or so, as Apple geared up to compete with Palm in the phone space, Apple hired at least 2% of Palm's workforce. To put it in perspective, had Palm done the same, we'd have hired 300 folks from Apple. Instead, to my knowledge, we've hired just three."

- Ed Colligan Palm CEO

Notice that he thought Jobs' proposal was that "neither company will hire the other's employees, regardless of the individual's desires". If true, that notches things up a level.

wow

You should get a medal for being the most ignorant of anti-trust laws. Apple should be found guilty if they have such agreements in place.

Doing this is harming their employees and subjecting them to basic slavery to a company (and thus professional stagnation).

Judge Koh has scheduled the trial for next May

Did she pre-announce her verdict yet?

My bad. Tough to read between the lines sometimes, since this place seems to be 90% "I'll defend Apple to the death no matter what the facts are."

My apologies.

Lol, your posting style is perfect for Macrumors... thanks for "keepin it real"!

That looked like an attempt at sarcasm. What your actual point is, I don't know.

What I do know is, I use Macs, I've used them for almost two decades, so I've seen some ups and downs. I don't religiously devote myself to Macs but I do browse this site every few days, among many other sites that I check out.

If you believe only fanbois should be posting on Macrumors, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Of course, everyone has opinions, just like everyone has a certain posterior-located body part.