New Mac Purchases Bring iLife '11 to Users' Older Computers

Apple's new computers shipping with Lion do not include physical restore media and instead utilize a hidden recovery partition to allow users to reinstall their system software should the need arise. But as noted by Macworld, reinstallation of the iLife '11 software included on new Macs occurs via the Mac App Store, which recognizes the machines' iLife licenses and links them to users' Apple IDs during the initial setup process.

But one key feature of the Mac App Store is that a single purchased license permits downloading of the software to any machines owned or controlled by the person linked to that Apple ID and logged in with the account. That key feature means that the iLife licenses issued to new computers via the Mac App Store permit users to download the software to their other Macs that may not have been upgraded to the latest version of iLife.
Purchase an app on your laptop, and you can launch the Mac App Store app on your iMac, click the Purchases button, and install that same app without having to purchase it again.

The iLife license you get when you set up one of the latest Macs is no different. Which means that if you haven’t yet gotten around to upgrading to iLife ’11, buying a new Mac mini or MacBook Air essentially gets you iPhoto, iMovie, and GarageBand for all your Macs running OS X 10.6.6 or later (since you need at least that version of Snow Leopard to run the Mac App Store). And this isn’t sneaky or dishonest—it’s right there in the Mac App Store’s software license.
The report notes that the policy only applies to iPhoto, iMovie and GarageBand, as Apple is in the process of phasing out iWeb and iDVD and does not offer them for download via the Mac App Store or include them on the new MacBook Air and Mac mini. The applications were included in the boxed version of iLife '11, but did not receive any meaningful updates from the iLife '09 versions, meaning that users with fully-updated iLife '09 installed are already running the most up-to-date versions of iWeb and iDVD anyway.

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111 months ago
I'll miss iDVD a little bit, it was so much easier adding titles and hyper links on DVDs to make them look professional on an easy to use piece of software. Hope they integrate some features in iMovie or another program in the future
Rating: 4 Votes
111 months ago
i'd trade it for iWork '11 ;)
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111 months ago
Well here's something to think about... this linking to your Apple ID also means you can't sell the mac with the software you bought on the app store unless you want to let the buyer keep the Apple ID.

So... does this mean the person has to buy Lion if they buy a Macbook that came with Snow Leopard originally? Or even more interesting, do they have to buy Lion if the computer came with Lion (I'm guessing having it on a partition means it can still be installed with a new Apple ID on this one though)?

Also, people are acting like this is new that it is easy to "game" the system to put new software that comes with a new computer on older computers... you could do that when the software came on DVD too, you just used that DVD on any other compatible mac.
Rating: 2 Votes
111 months ago
It's sad that my gut reaction to this was that it was somehow "gaming the system." It's funny how software companies, EULAs and DMCA have conditioned us to (or at least me) to feel that way. =P

Regardless, I'm glad companies are (slightly) moving back towards looser copyright policies. Now if only Nintendo would let me download the NES titles I still have in cartridge form to my Wii...

-Clive
Rating: 2 Votes
111 months ago

I'll miss iDVD a little bit, it was so much easier adding titles and hyper links on DVDs to make them look professional on an easy to use piece of software. Hope they integrate some features in iMovie or another program in the future


Apple has embraced the cloud so I guess they view DVDs as ancient history :), one less thing for their engineers to worry about. But it would still be nice to have some kind of a DVD like wrapper (UI with menus) around our home movies...?
Rating: 2 Votes
111 months ago
The whole thing with App Store-ready iLife programs would be great if it actually (https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1195824) worked (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3205881). I had the same problem with my brand new Air.
Rating: 1 Votes
111 months ago
Macrrumors is getting slow. I posted on this days ago! :p


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Apple's new computers shipping with Lion do not include physical restore media and instead utilize a hidden recovery partition to allow users to reinstall their system software should the need arise. But as noted by Macworld (http://www.macworld.com/article/161396/2011/07/new_mac_lion_ilife.html), reinstallation of the iLife '11 software included on new Macs occurs via the Mac App Store, which recognizes the machines' iLife licenses and links them to users' Apple IDs during the initial setup process.

But one key feature of the Mac App Store is that a single purchased license permits downloading of the software to any machines owned or controlled by the person linked to that Apple ID and logged in with the account. That key feature means that the iLife licenses issued to new computers via the Mac App Store permit users to download the software to their other Macs that may not have been upgraded to the latest version of iLife.The report notes that the policy only applies to iPhoto, iMovie and GarageBand, as Apple is in the process of phasing out iWeb and iDVD and does not offer them for download via the Mac App Store or include them on the new MacBook Air and Mac mini. The applications were included in the boxed version of iLife '11, but did not receive any meaningful updates from the iLife '09 versions, meaning that users with fully-updated iLife '09 installed are already running the most up-to-date versions of iWeb and iDVD anyway.

Article Link: New Mac Purchases Bring iLife '11 to Users' Older Computers (https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/29/new-mac-purchases-bring-ilife-11-to-users-older-computers/)

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111 months ago

Well here's something to think about... this linking to your Apple ID also means you can't sell the mac with the software you bought on the app store unless you want to let the buyer keep the Apple ID.


This is not true. The apps stay on the mac forever and can in fact be updated through the App Store even without being linked or logged in to any account.

However, if the new owner for some reason deletes the apps or wipes the hard drive, then they would have to re-purchase the apps.
Rating: 1 Votes
111 months ago

Does it work with Lion too? If you buy a new mac with Lion, can you upgrade your other machines?


I purchased a new Macbook Air and I don't seem to be able to upgrade my old Mac Mini to Lion. App Store shows $30 for Lion on Mac Mini.
Rating: 1 Votes
111 months ago
Since iDVD and iWeb aren't going to be getting new updates or be there whenever I get a new Mac, and since I haven't really used either one of them in a long time, is there a way I can remove iDVD and iWeb from my Mac easily and without hurting anything?
Rating: 1 Votes

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