Apple Granted Limited Permission to Intervene in Lodsys Case
In mid-June, Apple filed a motion to intervene in Lodsys' lawsuits against the developers, seeking to officially represent itself as both a defendant in the case and a plaintiff asserting counterclaims against Lodsys. Lodsys opposed the motion, and there has been little news on the progress of the lawsuits over the past nine months.
FOSS Patents now reports that Apple has just been granted limited permission to intervene in the case, with a judge allowing Apple to participate with regards to licensing arrangements.
In early August, Apple insisted that its motion should be granted. But for a long time, nothing happened with respect to Apple's motion. In the meantime, the judge originally presiding over the case resigned. Today, finally, Apple's motion was granted in part: "Apple is permitted to intervene in this suit, but such intervention is limited to the issues of patent exhaustion and licensing."While some of the defendants have already settled with Lodsys, it now appears that Apple will have an opportunity to demonstrate for the court that its licensing agreements with Lodsys preclude the patent holder from also demanding royalties from developers using the intellectual property already licensed by Apple.
Judge Rodney Gilstrap concluded that Apple was entitled to intervene, and in any event, a permissive intervention (one that the court can allow in its discretion) was also an option.
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(View all)Apple doesn't invent the apps in its store
Apple does not have a quote from Edison next to their logo.Is Lodsys really quoting Edison??:confused: Last I checked, Lodsys didn't invent of the things they're suing over. They're just hoping for a quick payday by extorting developers.
They picked the worse person to quote too lol.
Tesla > Edison
Says who?
Patent law. If Company A licences patent 101 for use in their component 18b, the patent holder of 101 is not allowed to sue company C who used component 18b in their widget 19.2 class C. If patent law worked like that, no one would ever get anything done and we'd probably live like we did in the 18th century.
Apple doesn't invent the apps in its store, but it gets $300 of each $1,000 mostly for being the only store allowed.
Many developers have already made a deal, since Lodsys only gets $4 royalty per $1,000. Not worth fighting over.
Nice revisionist view. Other than the "mostly for being the only store allowed" how about:
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[*]Creating the ecosystem upon which the apps run.
[*]Creating the tools with which the developers develop.
[*]Providing excellent support for the developers.
[*]Advertising for the developers.
[*]Handling and paying for all of the transactional costs.
[*]Continuing to develop better, faster hardware to run the developed apps.
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I think that, if you asked the vast, vast majority of the developers they would tell you that they get far more value from their relationship with Apple than they ever would with Lodsys.
The patent that Google found uses nearly the exact same language in the claims as the Lodsys-owned patents and the meaning of the claims were essentially the same too.
Lodsys currently makes money from Apple and others based on licensing of these patents. I'd love to see the Lodsys patents get completely invalidated so the Lodsys revenue stream from existing licensees gets completely cut off due to their greed. That would be awesome if they sued for more money and wound up with legal costs and losing their revenue stream.
Is Lodsys really quoting Edison??:confused: Last I checked, Lodsys didn't invent of the things they're suing over. They're just hoping for a quick payday by extorting developers.
Neither did Edison. He rushed to patent the works of Tesla. Seems ironically appropriate.
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Why such a obvious thing didn't occur before? Why would a judge not agree on a defendant to show evidence of agreement?
Have I missed something?
Apple is not the defendant. App developers are. Apple wants to intervene in their cases.
Is Lodsys really quoting Edison??:confused: Last I checked, Lodsys didn't invent of the things they're suing over. They're just hoping for a quick payday by extorting developers.
Apple doesn't invent the apps in its store, but it gets $300 of each $1,000 mostly for being the only store allowed.
Many developers have already made a deal, since Lodsys only gets $4 royalty per $1,000. Not worth fighting over.
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