Steve Jobs Called Google's Vic Gundotra on a Sunday About this Icon

Some people dislike Steve or think he's an ass. What they don't realise is all the best business men are...well...a word I can't really say on here.
All those haters have no idea of the kind of person Steve REALLY is. From this post, the idea I get of Steve is a person who cares. The guy clearly puts his heart and soul into the company and when he is truly gone he will be missed beyond belief.

It was Steve who saved Apple and made them the company they are today. I wouldn't be typing on this particular iMac if Steve hadn't come back to Apple. I wouldn't be using OSX Lion. OSX wouldn't exist. In fact, if it wasn't for Steve Apple wouldn't exist at all. I, as a Mac user, owe much to him as I'm sure many of you also do.

On a side note, for the ones who call it OCD. It's that kind of OCD which resulted in the fantastic products you're now using.

There is nothing epic about this. This is borderline, dare I say, full, OCD on Steve's part.

Micro-management on issues without any importance.

Many designers would call it attention to detail.

I see from your previous posts that you're into photography. I'm sure you've analyzed and critiqued many of your own photos. If you planned on submitting a photograph to a magazine or contest, wouldn't you try to make sure everything was the best it could be?

Given your relatively nice posts on the forum and the fact that you run your own business, I find it odd that you choose to openly question a successful businessman on his methods.

So we have resolved that ugly yellow.

Can we go on now and resolve all these other ugly icons in the Lion Finder?! And please make this unspeakable "real world" appearance from iCal / Address Book go away!

Please have this fixed by Monday. Thank you.

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Any questions?

Hell yeah: can we now get our matte displays back? The glossy ones suck big time!

The thing I love most about this story is that it shows a healthy working relationship on both sides of the fence. Too often some on here think of Apple vs Google, when in fact, both will have worked closely with one another. Its really heartening IMO to see this kind of relationship, where CEOs can talk to each other in order to resolve issues.

Haha, that's so awesome. I totally relate to Jobs' mentality too... I can't STAND to see ugly software, hardware, whatever. And beauty is part of what makes Apple products what they are (not saying it's the only reason I buy them)

Steve rules! Imagine being the engineer assigned to fix this on Monday morning!!

This engineer was named in the post, and he appears to be the director of human interface at Apple.
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Steve rules! Imagine being the engineer assigned to fix this on Monday morning!!

I wish more CEOs cared about their products, actually took pride in them, instead of your typical beancounting MBAs who cares about nothing but cutting costs, and commoditization of skills (aka outsourcing). That crap could be done by a simple computer program---no need to pay someone a lottery-size paycheck each year to make those kinds of decisions. It takes zero talent to put people out of work.

In contrast, making great products that people actually want requires the human element: passion, vision, understanding users, and understanding a little about the product at a more technical level (can't be solely 1000 miles above like your typical MBA who often have never even tried to use the product---they have people for that.)

If he had said he welcomed hearing that Jobs had called, that would be one thing. Instead, he said it made him nervous.

Anyone who thinks this was the right thing to do, has obviously never had an executive call them up in the middle of their personal time to say that they needed a minor detail changed so their presentation would look better.

This was no weekend emergency. It was going to be fixed the next day, and apparently wasn't even needed until Jobs' presentation a week later.

Seems pretty disrespectful of other people's time.

CEOs should care about details. Even shades of yellow. On a Sunday.

Of course they should. Then they can do something about it during the work week, instead of barging in on other people's personal time. It's sick the way that companies think they own everyone 24/7 nowadays.

I'll just refer you to the last paragraph in Vic Gundotra's post:





You talk about "respect."

The reason that Steve Jobs called Gundotra was because that logo was Google's intellectual property. And that, rather than simply tell his people at Apple to go ahead and make whatever changes he wanted, Steve Jobs respected Google, and Mr Gundotra's position at that company, enough to ask their permission first. That the way their logo looked was an important part of Google's brand, and that it would be morally, and probably legally, wrong to modify it in any way without clearing it first.

This seems to be a nicety that gets lost on a lot of people.

Very good point. It seems very few (if any) people caught this.

Sort of puts Apple's litigation efforts in a new, more positive light - not that there was anything wrong with it in the first place, particularly their "respect our IP" line.