Apple Signs Production Deal With Carmi Zlotnik, Known for Overseeing 'Outlander,' 'American Gods' and More

This is all going to look like a big waste when none of these non-appealing (and woke) shows actually catch on

The whole “Apple is only going to have bland, PC, woke programming” thing is pretty weak sauce. Their shows have been surprisingly controversial.

TV+ is surprisingly good. Average quality light years beyond Netflix, and every rumor and news seem to point to Apple going all in with talent and resources.

Another great hire. Apple TV+ is anything but woke. It’s also anything but bland. Great exciting content? Sign me up for another year.

You sound like everyone did before the introduction of the iPod, and the Playstation. Apple isnt a content company. Sony isn't a console company.

Got to start somewhere. Also I saw quite a lot of Servant buzz in the circles I'm in.. What is buzz when most news/media platforms algorhythms show you what they think you want to see based on what you've seen already. Looking on Youtube there is discussion of these things.

There has been a lot of buzz for The Morning Show (awards seasons and critics raving about the finale created new attention) and Mythic Quest (a lot of Sunny fans out there).

Lol a grand total of 5 people like Apple shows.

Did you read my post? This new hire is from Starz. He ran the show. He now answers to van amburg and erlicht who run Apple Tv+. All I said is that Apple TV+ is anything but woke, based on their current and past output. I sincerely do not believe one additional creative hire will alter the entire Apple TV+ network.

and that’s assuming all the blame you are heaping on Zlotnik is accurate.

TLDR: LTR

Haha, let me 1st apologize that any mention of American Gods (clearly!) triggers me.
This guy may actually be a “hands off” manager in his overseer position.
Let me just amend my position to, rather than placing all the blame on him, to stating that when listing someone’s “accomplishments”, it’s probably incredibly poor form for one of the two examples being a s**tshow travesty.

edit: one final aside-
While I agree with you that Apple+ content is NOT the generic inoffensive stuffs that people were so concerned about; as you say... not particularly “woke”, certainly the hiring of someone that either was directly involved in or at least let happen at STARZ the exact thing that people have been hysterically worrying about w/ Apple+, if anything, finally gives some credence to those concerns.

This is all going to look like a big waste when none of these non-appealing (and woke) shows actually catch on

SEE? One of the most common complaints about it is how violent and gory it is.

I guess technically everyone’s blind, so.. are you claiming it’s woke because of disability representation? I’m not seeing how high concept stuff like this counts as either woke or playing it safe.

Servant doesn’t fit what you’re suggesting either. Apple have a pretty decent range considering they don’t have much volume of material yet.

How would you know if something has caught on or not? If you’re talking about this guy’s past work, some of those series are huge successes, so you’re too late.

Haha, let me 1st apologize that any mention of American Gods (clearly!) triggers me.
This guy may actually be a “hands off” manager in his overseer position.
Let me just amend my position to, rather than placing all the blame on him, to stating that when listing someone’s “accomplishments”, it’s probably incredibly poor form for one of the two examples being a s**tshow travesty.

Having worked in production, I will only say that when stories filter out that “xxxx was done about character/actor/plot line YYYY for reason ZZZZZ”, one should discount about 90%. A good part of the time the answer is about money (the studio/production company/network does not have or want to spend enough or as much as other party wants), or personalities (people who cannot work together often for reasons of ego). The losers in these fights often attribute their losses to reasons they think make the other side look as bad as possible, rather than simple facts like: “I felt I was worth a 50% pay increase and they said ’no’!”

I have no specific knowledge about American Gods, but I can say I would not believe everything I heard.

Another great hire. Apple TV+ is anything but woke.

Lol, wtf are you talking about????

American Gods was by far one of the best & most promising shows I’ve seen in years and years!
Then- through some SUPREME mess ups... they lost Easter (Kristin Chenoweth) & Media (Gillian Anderson), and both of the showrunners, after season 1.
They got a new showrunner, cobbled together some lame excuses as to why characters changed- & stumbled forward.
Now- they lost Anansi (Orlando Jones) & the Djinn... apparently over an argument that Anansi (the spider/trickster god) should have a less bitter tone about slavery because “that’s not the attitude people need right now”.

So, this clown that supposedly was in charge of the best thing to happen to tv since Neil Gaiman picked up a pen..... let it turn into a dumpster fire, so a “woke/pc” agenda could change the fundamental vibe of a character & you are APPLAUDING this???

Like, literally everything you said made no sense unless.... wait, is it Opposite Day?

By 2025 with all the HBO,Starz,Netflix additions expect Apple Tv+ to be a 9-15 billion dollar a year services add on. Not too shabby for a company who came in late like many claim. Thing I love about it all Apple Tv+ is a hobby for them. They could scrap tomorrow and take a slight hit, however survive fully. This unlike many companies who've risked their future on streaming or streaming is all they got. They will not reap the same rewards over time as apple will. The awards by next year for original content will be alot higher and continue on from there.