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Price is just to damn high

It's been the same price since 2016. Counting for inflation, the 15" MacBook Pro from 2006 was $2,551.76.

The reality is that most people don’t actually know what they want or need. Just because it is the latest technology and that their phone has it. They also need something to complain about

If you actually take the laptop anywhere, an airport, hotel, etc. There is no way you are going to see wifi6 being used or get the benefits of it. There are no travel routers that support wifi6 either.

I for one, am big on having the latest and greatest. I would have rather had a 1080p camera or faceid in the laptop than wifi6. Either way, this is the first Apple laptop I am buying since 2012.

Genuine question. I’ve seen this mentioned a lot here and I don’t know if this is a criticism people are trying to bandwagon or if there’s a very good reason.

802.11ac has stronger than gigabit throughput. Almost all routers on the market don’t support 802.11ax. For the purpose of connecting to the Internet, you'd be hard pressed to find a router which even supports faster than gigabit in, and just as difficult to find a symmetrical gigabit Internet connection.

If you need a faster or more stable connection for a local network, you’d likely be wired anyway with 10Gb Ethernet.

I understand it’s good to have the latest technology but is this really a necessary feature stopping you buying it? Can you confirm why you need 802.11ax? Again, I’m asking because I don’t know why people seem so passionate about this.

Nice but with no Wi-Fi 6 I’m gonna pass. Let’s see if the next (hopefully) 14 inch has better connectivity options.

Genuine question. I’ve seen this mentioned a lot here and I don’t know if this is a criticism people are trying to bandwagon or if there’s a very good reason.

802.11ac has stronger than gigabit throughput. Almost all routers on the market don’t support 802.11ax. For the purpose of connecting to the Internet, you'd be hard pressed to find a router which even supports faster than gigabit in, and just as difficult to find a symmetrical gigabit Internet connection.

If you need a faster or more stable connection for a local network, you’d likely be wired anyway with 10Gb Ethernet.

I understand it’s good to have the latest technology but is this really a necessary feature stopping you buying it? Can you confirm why you need 802.11ax? Again, I’m asking because I don’t know why people seem so passionate about this.

Costco has same pricing, 90 day return, second year warranty.

Price is just to damn high

Nice but with no Wi-Fi 6 I’m gonna pass. Let’s see if the next (hopefully) 14 inch has better connectivity options.

Genuine question. I’ve seen this mentioned a lot here and I don’t know if this is a criticism people are trying to bandwagon or if there’s a very good reason.

802.11ac has stronger than gigabit throughput. Almost all routers on the market don’t support 802.11ax. For the purpose of connecting to the Internet, you'd be hard pressed to find a router which even supports faster than gigabit in, and just as difficult to find a symmetrical gigabit Internet connection.

If you need a faster or more stable connection for a local network, you’d likely be wired anyway with 10Gb Ethernet.

I understand it’s good to have the latest technology but is this really a necessary feature stopping you buying it? Can you confirm why you need 802.11ax? Again, I’m asking because I don’t know why people seem so passionate about this.

First, while 802.11ac has a theoretical higher throughout than gigabit LAN, it’s simply not the case. LAN is full duplex while WiFi is half-duplex so that cuts your potential speed right there.
Second, with 802.11ac and older, only one device can be talking to the router at a time. So with multiple devices connected it’s quickly sending packets to different devices one at a time.
Third, it also depends on how many channels your device has. I think all MacBooks are 3x3 so it can send on a maximum of three channels. With 802.11ac on 2.4Ghz, that means 3x150Mbps (450Mbps) maximum. On 5 GHz, that means 3x433Mbps (1300Mbps) maximum. So after the half duplex and other overhead it will max out at 3-400Mbps. I’m pretty sure people who are saying they get more than that are simply looking at connection speed not actual throughput.

All that to say this, WiFi 6 changes a lot of things in this. Maximum throughput is about 40% higher on the same frequencies, multiple devices can talk to the router at once, lower latency, some power tricks in telling the device when it can shut down its antenna, and other stuff. So I understand why people want it but personally i think it will be years before it really makes a difference. Maybe if you live in a congested neighborhood where WiFi signals are everywhere, but you had better be prepared to change all your devices to WiFi 6.

My thinking is the configuration should be with 32GB and the higher end graphics options if you are planning on a 3-4 years window for this purchase. +400 USD for the memory upgrade. I miss the old days when memory could be added by the end user.

Wait, what do you mean second year warranty?

It covers defects for two years. No accidental stuff that AppleCare+ covers for three years.

Search Costco for complete details.

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It covers defects for two years. No accidental stuff that AppleCare+ covers for three years.

Search Costco for complete details.

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And if you use Costco Visa you get an additional 2 years per the website -- so that would be 4 total years for free.