Second-Generation iPhone X Estimated to Cost Apple Up to 10% Less to Manufacture

Thank you for beta-testing.

Now give me back my LCD.

Why?

That’s nice man. And really, the quoted text is all you had to write. I don’t know why people ditching iOS always follows some kind of justification. No one cares. If you come back a year later no one cares. If you stay no one cares.

I don't care if you care or not, silly. I've been using Apple stuff for 20 years, and up until recently I have existed in that eco system pretty much exclusively. I'm a pro user, and it turns out that costs matter in business.

At the beginning of the 2000s Apple was really the only game in town for digital creatives, so we stuck with Apple stuff. That's all very well, but slowly Apple have 'ditched' as you put it, various Pro centric software and hardware in favour of consumer devices. An iPad Pro is a fantastic computer, but it's still not going to cut it as a workstation. Cutting off all of the connections on a MacBook pro in favour of a fairly useless Touch Bar and neutering the RAM is kicking pros in the guts. But there never used to be an alternative.

The point is that the alternatives have caught up, and in some cases overtaken Apple. And for less money.
I used to think that iOS was the only OS. It works out that android does a lot of things better, and it turns out that it doesn't matter anyway. Microsoft have a superior cloud platform (over iCloud)and Google are open house when it comes to software and digital assistants have left Siri way behind.

Apple Music is great, but then so is Amazon Music, or Spotify.

So let me help you out. You say you don't know why people ditching iOS have to justify it - well I don't. But the glory of the internetz means I can. I use iOs on my iPad. I use android on my Google Phone. I Use One Drive for my cloud services. I use Amazon for my Music. I use an iMac for my business, and my wife uses a PC for hers.

That wasn't possible 5 years ago, maybe even less.

I thought I'd never be able to not have to only use Apple for services and would have to pay the premium, but now I don't.

You don't have to care about that, but on a forum that's discussing the merits of a phone that is over $1K that even die hard iOS fans don't have to own when the competition is better (for some things), cheaper (in every case), and less restricting, less of a walled garden, then some people might actually find that it's of use to actually (ironically?) "Think Different" for a change.

I don't need you to care and I don't need you to advise me on all I had to write, when in the end I could just throw that one right back atcha, mate.

Dear Apple,

We need an iPhone X-style "all screen" iPhone with reduced size and weight. Bring it back to around the iPhone 6/7/8 dimensions, or even slightly smaller. But with the larger all-screen display.

Thanks!

This is basically what the X is.

Too late - Already bought a Pixel 2. I'm selling my iPhone 7 which was probably the peak point for the iPhone (the 8 being almost exactly the same).
There's a limit to what I (and a lot of people, apparently) will justify spending on a phone, no matter how forward thinking it is.
Likewise I haven't installed any internet of things in my 120 year old house, because I can switch the lights on myself. And I can boil the kettle and change the thermostat etc.

The point is - I just don't need all of this technology. Some of it's nice, but at what cost? What's the environmental impact?
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Dear Apple,

We need an iPhone X-style "all screen" iPhone with reduced size and weight. Bring it back to around the iPhone 6/7/8 dimensions, or even slightly smaller. But with the larger all-screen display.

Thanks!

Isn't that what the iPhone X already is? Are you confusing yourself?

NOOOOOOOOOO! I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO A PHABLET JUST TO HAVE THE TOP END SPECS!

As an iPhone X owner, the price of the next phone had better drop. There is no way I’m going to pay $1K for the iPhone Excess.

Please stop with the Android compare. Compare that with the $950 Note. Why should ANDROID owners pay a premium for a phone that runs Android and costs 3X as much?

Apple users pay more because of iOS, support, fashion, etc.

Please stop comparing iOS to Android like they are the same. No one wants Android when they use iOS. It's better to ask Android users why they buy flagship Android phones.

I use iOS and MacOS too, and I also use Android devices. I want and prefer Android because I think it's better, more open, more versatile, and less closed off. I know that doesn't mean anything to you, but there you go.

The idea that paying more for iOS makes it better is out of date. It's not 2008 any more.

It’s why people are realising there’s another world out there for a quarter of the price do you really NEED that Animoji. That OLED screen? That Portrait mode? Really? (Whispered Answer: No. you actually don’t) Can you really justify £750 more than this fully featured dual lens 64gb costs for the draw of IOS? (Answer: No you can’t. But. You will!)

https://m.johnlewis.com/honor-9-smartphone-android-5-15-inch-4g-lte-sim-free-64gb/p3371779

£269! Top quality product. This is not a cut down phone and competes with high end stuff today!

No longer is it the case of “What would Samsung do?” Its now “Why have I been spending so much on stuff Im only paying for for sheer vanity and bragging rights really?”

Competition is a GOOD thing. As the competitors give more value for less cash - Apple’s insistence on reducing features for more cash can no longer be assumed to work any more I’m afraid.

Er. That’s it.

I guess. Whatever works for you. $200 is nothing though.

$200 is not nothing. Its still $200 that can buy food for a week at least. (months in certain countries).

Also, to those that say this is not a phone and they don't need to buy gps, camera etc.? Please wake up! That time has passed for this justification. EVERY phone now has these features so that lame excuse no longer works.

iPhone X might be technically powerful but design and price is awful and Apple did cross the line here for many customers.

Overall, I really hope that people will vote with the wallet this time as otherwise we will have Apple PHONES costing $2000 soon or more!

and btw. all these technological marvels usually come in 2-3 years to all mid range phones so people really need to ask if having the latest and greatest at the time is really crucial to them or if they are just spoilt brats.

its business as usual.... lower the cost to grab all they can get, then raise the prices because we can't keep selling at this low price point.