Refurbished Current Generation iPads Available on Apple Online Store for $50 Off

This is a clear indicator that there is a new iPad on the horizon.

Why is this a "clear" indicator that a new iPad is coming? Apple always puts up refurbished products for sale at reduced prices. What are they supposed to do with them, throw them away?

If they lowered the price of new ones, maybe that's an indicator but not this.

Buy from a vendor like b&h or somewhere tax free.

I don't get why people are clueless on avoiding to pay tax.

It's not "tax free," you're still supposed to claim it at the end of the year.

This is a clear indicator that there is a new iPad on the horizon.

Jesus H! Not it is not.

iMacs have been on the refurb section for over a year. Items hit the refurb store when there is enough returned/refurbed merchandise to make it feasible to provide such an offering.

Quit spreading falsehoods.

It's not "tax free," you're still supposed to claim it at the end of the year.

Of course :wink:


Nobody claims that stuff and I doubt u do either.

Then u pay tax and your back up to $500

Buy from a vendor like b&h or somewhere tax free.

I don't get why people are clueless on avoiding to pay tax.

And apple will take care of your iPad's waranty

Kind of related, Refurbished 2012 13" MBP's also hit the store today.

Last I heard, refurb iPads have new shells and batteries. Full warranty, fully tested. May never have been used even, if it’s just transitional "clearing out.” (I agree with ckurt, though: a little too soon for that. I’d understand a flood of refurbs—which might really be new--the week of the new models maybe, not in advance.)

Great deal.

This is a clear indicator that there is a new iPad on the horizon.

I would have said no, since it’s too soon for a whole new 10" iPad generation... but reports that Apple wants the same new dock connector on all devices actually makes some sense. Apple could just add the new connector quietly to the current iPad “3”.

So: new iPhone, new iPod Touch, new iPod Mini... and minor tweak to iPad “3”? I don’t know that this is necessarily a sign of it, but I can see it happening.

This is a clear indicator that there is a new iPad on the horizon.

That horizon is a 6-7 month journey.

It's evading a tax that isn't justified in the first place. Sounds good to me.

Check this out from a post on Macintouch (ouch!):

Jul. 9, 2012
David Charlap
Robert Mohns wrote:
"I live in northern Massachusetts near the New Hampshire border, and Mass residents do an awful lot of shopping over the border in tax-free New Hampshire; you can bet no one reports it. But the state Department of Revenue has gotten savvy to this, and while they don't lay in wait over state lines (they can't -- it triggers the interstate commerce clause and the FedGov takes a dim view of it), they have found another way to collect the use tax..."

Back when I lived in NJ, I remember reading about how New York City would send people to tour the parking lots of NJ shopping malls, taking down the tag numbers of any New York cars. They would send "friendly reminder" letters to these people informing them that they owe New York the difference between NY's and NJ's sales tax rates. Of course, most people threw out the letters.

New Jersey, however, takes the cake, IMO. If you aren't paying any use tax, you must write in "0.00" in the use tax box on your state tax return. Leaving it blank is not allowed and will make them reject your return, even though all the other boxes will be accepted as zero if left blank. The idea here is that if they later decide that you owed use tax, they have your signature, under penalty of perjury, on the form. You can't claim you forgot because you explicitly wrote in "0.00". They can extort all kinds of penalties from you under threat of prosecution for perjury (which could theoretically involve jail time.)

Additionally, NJ's penalties for failure to pay use tax can get astronomical. According to their official statement (http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/su_14.shtml), you can be forced to pay:
* A late-filing penalty 5% of the tax due per month it's late up to 25%
* Plus $100 per month additional late-filing penalty
* A late-payment penalty of 5% of the tax due
* Interest at an APR of 3% over prime for every month the tax is unpaid, compounded annually
* And at the end of each year, penalties and interest owed get rolled into the amount owed, with the entire penalty cycle starting over again.
So if you owe $100 in use tax and you choose to ignore it, and they decide to prosecute five years later, they can try to collect:
* the $100 principle
* plus 25% late-filing penalty (compounded each year)
* plus $6000 late-filing penalty ($1200 each year added to the principle - so subsequent interest and penalties will be on top of this amount!)
* plus 5% late-payment penalty (compounded each year)
* plus 6.25% interest (at today's prime rate of 3.25%) (compounded each year)
for a grand total of $12,702.96 owed for that $100 tax you failed to pay.
I've been told by tax preparers that it is common for NJ to detect what they consider to be under-reported use tax and refuse to act for several years, in order to maximize the penalty they can collect when they finally decide to act.

Ignoring use tax in some states can be an incredibly dangerous thing to do.

Then u pay tax and your back up to $500

Buy from a vendor like b&h or somewhere tax free.

I don't get why people are clueless on avoiding to pay tax.

And apple will take care of your iPad's waranty

By not paying sales tax you cause problems.

State uses it to build and repair roads, give better budgets to schools, etc.

Thanks for being part of the problem.