Logic Pro and MainStage Headed to Mac App Store, Boxed Software Discontinued [Updated]

"Apple doesn't care about pros" post in 3,2,1...

I am begining to think of the download versions of software as the premium and the box version as being an annoyance. Not needing to keep track of the media and the right to redownload is a good thing when you live in a place where houses all around you have a tendency to be destroyed by tornadoes, earthquakes and fires.

Unfortunately many people still have sub par internet connections even downloading 1gb can take more than 24 hours.

can you please tell me how people are going to download around 40gig of content?????

Hope for a substantial discount or I'll see if I can get an upgrade to a boxed copy.

I am begining to think of the download versions of software as the premium and the box version as being an annoyance. Not needing to keep track of the media and the right to redownload is a good thing when you live in a place where houses all around you have a tendency to be destroyed by tornadoes, earthquakes and fires.

Well, logic express was on my christmas list.... can anyone advise on what I should do?!

Amazon.

Logic X Retro

Logic X is going indie. It will feature 4-track cassette style recording with a brilliant sound emulation of your favorite cassette multitracks and you can even choose what brand of tape.

If users sell more than 10,000 copies of a track on iTunes, via iCloud, Logic will automatically upgrade you to the Adat pack. 48 tracks with harsh high end and 8 tracks dropping out of sync randomly throughout your session.

if you sell 100,000 copies you get upgraded to the, "I got a record deal" pack, which includes 96 tracks of 2" tape (that's 4 studer's!) the "virtual producer" pack that replays all the parts exactly how you didn't want them played and the "virtual A&R guy" who tells you your song sucks and it needs a stronger chorus and then takes 99% of your profits from iTunes and gives to some guy you'll never meet to spend it on a hookers and blow.

... I just wish [Apple] would not keep stringing everyone along and cashing in on the 'Pro' name they invested so heavily in.

Apple has made the word "Pro" less than meaningless. A MacBook "Pro" has never been a high end system - "Pro" simply meant that it costs more, it had the ports that you'd expect in a Windows laptop of half the price, and it wasn't made of tacky white plastic that came pre-cracked. (My 76 year old mother-in-law bought the MacBook Pro - because she didn't like the white plastic model.)

...Here are a couple of ways Apple could address the mass of data problem.
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* ICloud. It would be extremely easy for Apple to give users instant access via iCloud.

ROTFLOL - I've always thought of the Cloud as a contributor to the net bandwidth problem, not a solution for it! Instead of a one-time download at installation time, you want to substitute repeated downloads whenever you use something?

If two things never belong in the same sentence it's "instant access" and "cloud".

The 3,75 gig Lion-download is completed in less than 25 minutes for me, thus 19 gigs is about 3 hours of downloading (for me).

Nice for you - obviously you're Apple's target market.

Sucks for the rest of the world, though.

Ignorance?

Just like pros read for content, especially about improved performance. To be perfectly honest I actually do think some pros look at the box to determine if it is a pro level machine. For the most part I don't think pros have a grasp of the underlying technology to even evaluate a machine. The mentality is bigger must be better.

You have nothing to base that statement on. Apples till sells its profitable pro hardware and software. Just because a few FCP users grossly over reacted doesn't mean the app is any less of a Pro app. I'm not sure what these clowns where even expecting, Apple had to completely rewrite the app and eventually had to ship something. Now the have a new code base to build upon.


You know I really tire of this ignorance. Just because an app borrows features from another does not imply that it is suddenly less of a pro app. The only proper way to evaluate any changes that might happen to Logic is to use it. Not for one day either but rather for several weeks to overcome muscle memory related to the old app.

I've seen this again an again with all sorts of users when an upgrade comes in. Something changes and the blame the app. That makes no sense at all in the first hour of the first day of use. A classic example is scrolling in Lion, break the muscle memory and adapt to the new method and find out that it does indeed work well.

This doesn't mean all design alterations are right for everybody. What it does mean is that knee jerk reactions are not always the right answer and in fact seldom are.

I also get tired of the ignorance of people who don't USE pro apps getting mad when people who DO use them complain about features getting removed. When you spend hours at a time for days on end doing nothing but using the program, you know when essential features are gone. Yes, people complain too much, sometimes, but when you market a software to professionals, expect complaints if it's missing professional features - or worse, professional features are actually removed that prevent people from staying current.

Final Cut Pro X has a lot of people I work with eyeing Avid Media Composer and Adobe, the other large NLEs available for Mac. If they dumb down Logic the same way, Pro Tools it is, for me!

I wouldn't have posted that if I didn't think so!!!!!

lol - you really think that?

Pros start by looking at the specs first, and what they can do with it, and the shape and colour of the box last.

Just like pros read for content, especially about improved performance. To be perfectly honest I actually do think some pros look at the box to determine if it is a pro level machine. For the most part I don't think pros have a grasp of the underlying technology to even evaluate a machine. The mentality is bigger must be better.

The truth is Apple is pulling out of the Pro software market. I understand it from a business perspective - I just wish they would not keep stringing everyone along and cashing in on the 'Pro' name they invested so heavily in.

You have nothing to base that statement on. Apples till sells its profitable pro hardware and software. Just because a few FCP users grossly over reacted doesn't mean the app is any less of a Pro app. I'm not sure what these clowns where even expecting, Apple had to completely rewrite the app and eventually had to ship something. Now the have a new code base to build upon.

Logic users - I wish you the best of luck with the next update, and I really hope for your sake it isn't Garage Band Pro.

You know I really tire of this ignorance. Just because an app borrows features from another does not imply that it is suddenly less of a pro app. The only proper way to evaluate any changes that might happen to Logic is to use it. Not for one day either but rather for several weeks to overcome muscle memory related to the old app.

I've seen this again an again with all sorts of users when an upgrade comes in. Something changes and the blame the app. That makes no sense at all in the first hour of the first day of use. A classic example is scrolling in Lion, break the muscle memory and adapt to the new method and find out that it does indeed work well.

This doesn't mean all design alterations are right for everybody. What it does mean is that knee jerk reactions are not always the right answer and in fact seldom are.

"Apple doesn't care about pros" post in 3,2,1...

These are the most pointless posts and yet people up-rank them. Why are people so predictable?

Anyway I'm all for download versions as long as they create an upgrade path like with boxed copies rather than paying full price for every upgrade.