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Tim Cook and Samsung CEO Choi Gee-sung Meeting Today to Discuss Patent Issues

Following last month's announcement that Apple and Samsung had agreed to high-level talks involving the two companies' CEOs in an attempt to resolve ongoing patent litigation, Reuters provides a preview of the session set to begin today in San Francisco. The talks, which will be mediated by a federal judge, are scheduled to take place over the next two days.


Commenting before his departure to the United States for the talks, Samsung mobile division chief JK Shin noted that while significant differences between Apple and Samsung still exist, a number of "negotiation options" remain on the table.
"There is still a big gap in the patent war with Apple," JK Shin said, before departing for the United States for the mediation talks. "But we still have several negotiation options."

Court documents show the two companies have had at least one mediation session, although it is not clear if Cook and Choi were involved.
Legal experts are not optimistic that the two companies will reach a settlement, but with courts increasingly pushing companies to seek alternative dispute resolution processes in hopes of staving off drawn-out court battles, Apple and Samsung have agreed to participate in the talks.

Samsung is just one of Apple's main targets in its patent battles with Android-based hardware manufacturers. In another case, Apple succeeded in slowing U.S. imports of several HTC smartphones earlier this month, forcing the company to delay the launch of the Evo 4G LTE on Sprint although HTC has indicated that some shipments of some models are being released by U.S. Customs.

But while Apple's disputes with several Android device manufacturers center on functionality of the devices, the company's dispute with Samsung extends further to claims that Samsung has "chosen to slavishly copy" the design of Apple's products with its own line of Galaxy smartphones and tablets.

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29 months ago

The best thing that can happen with these two is to go their separate ways. Apple will see how much they need Samsung's quality class leading parts in the quantities only Samsung can supply. At the same time, Samsung will see how much they don't need Apple as others will fill the void no problem. Apple has already tried to leave Samsung, but have end up crawling back as Samsung knew they would. This is FACT.
There is no doubt Apple see Samsung as their biggest threat in the market.


Have you forgotten about this already? Samsung's Market Cap Takes $10 Billion Hit Amid Rumors of Apple DRAM Deal with Elpida (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/16/samsungs-market-cap-takes-10-billion-hit-amid-rumors-of-apple-dram-deal-with-eloped/). It's glaringly obvious who needs who here. :cool:
Rating: 13 Votes
29 months ago
The only reason that Samsung is the second most profitable company (when it comes to the mobile space) is because their strategy is to essentially copy what Apple is doing. A simple strategy, that has proven to be more successful than they could have ever imagined.

Will they just drop this now? No way.. The legal battles are just a cost of doing business..
Rating: 12 Votes
29 months ago
That's what people should do. Get the experience and talk. Not hiding behind egos and send the troops.
Rating: 11 Votes
29 months ago

Have you forgotten about this already? Samsung's Market Cap Takes $10 Billion Hit Amid Rumors of Apple DRAM Deal with Elpida (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/16/samsungs-market-cap-takes-10-billion-hit-amid-rumors-of-apple-dram-deal-with-eloped/). It's glaringly obvious who needs who here. :cool:


You do realize Apple,Inc. has lost almost $60 Billion in market Cap. over the last 20 days right ?
Rating: 10 Votes
29 months ago

Excellent! This is the best way to attempt to solve the issues. If it doesn't work, then continue legal action. One thing for sure, this would never happen if Steve was around.


Yeah, and as we all know, this attitude of his almost killed Apple back then and got Jobs fired from the company that he founded.

It's not his genius or ego that made Apple's late success possible. It was the platform agnostic nature of the Internet and the failure of Microsoft in certain technological areas - exactly those areas where Apple now plays.

But just like before, Apple tries to keep the platform closed under their tight control - and just like before, people are looking for an alternative. Back then, that was Windows. Today it's Android. Around 900,000 Android devices are being activated EVERY DAY. The platform is open for everybody who wants to use it.

Really, saying that Samsung's success is based upon "copying" Apple is ridiculous. Samsung sells awesome and OPEN products throughout all price ranges, but definitely ALWAYS at a competitive and usually even affordable price. Apple only feeds the high-price segment with its lifestyle products and image. That makes them a lot of money at the moment, but trends usually don't last for an eternity and the majority of people on this planet simply does not have the money to spare on pure luxury toys.

On the other hand, Samsung is only one competing player and an entire (Asian) industry is willing to provide -ALL- sorts of customer with Android-powered products.
Rating: 10 Votes
29 months ago

Have you forgotten about this already? Samsung's Market Cap Takes $10 Billion Hit Amid Rumors of Apple DRAM Deal with Elpida (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/16/samsungs-market-cap-takes-10-billion-hit-amid-rumors-of-apple-dram-deal-with-eloped/). It's glaringly obvious who needs who here. :cool:


I don't think either one needs one more than the other. We have Apple fanboys (you) claiming that Elpida (or similar company) will provide the components Apple needs. Will they be up to Samsung quality? Most likely not. Will Apple's sales drop if quality is lost? Or if they can't get the volume Samsung provides? Yes. Not to mention all the other parts that Samsung makes, and at such high volume.

On the other hand, Samsung does have a large market in making parts for Apple. Huge demand for them, and a huge market share.

So to suggest that this relationship is anything but symbiotic, and take sides as to who needs who, is stupid. They both benefit, hence the reason neither company has dropped the other, and the reason that they are attempting to resolve this, whether it be in court or through settlement talks.

Get off your high horse. Neither company is better than the other.
Rating: 10 Votes
29 months ago
Don't settle, if someone "steals-copy" then fight for your right.:rolleyes:
Rating: 9 Votes
29 months ago
Great move by Cook&co imo.

Also, very glad this isn't a thread where 'shut up and take my money' applies.
Rating: 8 Votes
29 months ago
1st off....I can't stand Samsung, as they have good products, but they are almost all overpriced for what you get. However I am getting tired of Apple trying to sue the heck out of everyone. If someone thinks of using an icon apple sues them for their thoughts. Apple has copied many people as well.

iPad copies Samsung?

http://www.androidauthority.com/behold-samsungs-ipad-made-in-2006-21278/

Siri was an improved version of what Android had already done.
iOS added a quick bar at the top of the iOS...Copy from Android.
Mac have widgets. Not sure if Android, Apple, or MS was 1st here, but someone copied someones idea.

Apple sues people over laptop designs when Apple stole the HP design on the MBP. I supported this HP garbage back in the day, and the 1st time I saw the MBP I thought it was that HP Laptop. (looked the same, but a MBP is a far better product ;-))

I like my Apple stuff (especially my Mini), and can't believe I just wrote the above statements. But I try not to look at things with blinders on.

I am ready to get flamed now :-)
Rating: 8 Votes
29 months ago

The only reason that Samsung is the second most profitable company (when it comes to the mobile space) is because their strategy is to essentially copy what Apple is doing. A simple strategy, that has proven to be more successful than they could have ever imagined.


That was true a year or two ago, I think... and might still apply to the physical appearance of their larger tablets.

However, Samsung's phones don't look anything like the iPhone 4 series, and ICS doesn't look like iOS.

Currently the main strategy that Samsung is following that could be claimed to be an "Apple" strategy, is to concentrate on a single name/model that can get burned into the public's conciousness. Apple relies on using "iPhone" like the word "iPod". Likewise, Samsung has been pushing the name "Galaxy" now for a while, and they might put out fewer models.
Rating: 8 Votes

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