Apple Adds Eight More Macs to Vintage Products List

I have a iMac (27-inch, Retina 5K, Late 2015) that is an absolutely great computer. It is fast, dependable, it has a really great screen. There is nothing obsolete about it except for the fact that Apple now has “depreciated“ the computer and will no longer support it with future OS updates. Total drag. Total planned obsolescence. Totally not sustainable.

I get what you mean but I think that's different than the Vintage/ Obsolete list. It's more of a hardware support thing. It's never good if you buy something right as a major change is happening. It would be like buying a Mac Pro now. If I remember right Snow Leopard was just some slight improvements and fixes.

Snow Leopard was the best ever. Massive stability fixes, just solid all around. Every OS X/macOS since then has had various components of a **** show, each barely swept together and held in place by glue and mud then ignored when the next dev train started.

High Sierra was probably "second best", so much that I hung onto that as long as humanly possible until I couldn't go on any longer. I've regretted Big Sur ever since I made the jump. I'm almost scared to try Monterey (has it fixed the moron 2x memory hog bug that's breaking virtualbox in Big Sur? It's confirmed as an Apple problem. Is Mail worth a crap again? It's been pure garbage in Big Sur, searching is entirely broken; why is the internet's oldest app so hard to do the right way? Does anyone at Apple actually use Mail.app? Seems like they don't.).

Snow Leopard could take all the hits and keep on ticking. It just wouldn't fail.

the 2016 MBP era macs were not Pro laptops

I think Intel will get more than that. Back when Snow Leopard launched there was 2-3 years between OS releases. I kind of miss those times honestly. The yearly OS updates just feel like too much; They end up abandoning a version before it truly gets stable. I think the last intel machines sold will at least get 4 years of updates. But with how well old computers hold up for basic tasks, it's just wasteful to not keep the Operating System current for longer. I'm still rocking my mid 2012 cMBP on Catalina and am looking at picking up an M2 Pro MBP when they launch, but even my old MBP is still plenty fast for basic web browsing and youtube and whatnot. It would be a great hand me down to my parents, except it will stop getting most security updates this fall. That said, that machine has had a good run overall, but some of these newer intel machines are going to get scrapped way too soon in my opinion.

Yeah annual OS updates is incredibly stupid. I'm surprised they stuck with that for this long. It's been nothing but bug-fest after bug-fest and ZERO meaningful attention on bugs, iOS 12 not withstanding (that one was actually decent).

Keeping the features and product synchronicity is good, but that doesn't require annual all-new everything. Tick-tock cycle might be ok. Or tick-tock-tack and phase in stuff.

Wow. If a 6 year old MBP is “vintage,” what does that make our (quite functional and used daily) 2009 MBP? “Antique?” “Ancient?”

Five years of support for laptops is pathetic. This is android levels of bad.