HDR10+ Support Not Coming to Apple TV App in iOS 16 and macOS Ventura After All?

Following the WWDC 2022 keynote event on Monday, Apple published iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura Preview pages outlining all of the new features. All three sites listed "HDR10+" support for the Apple TV app as an upcoming feature, but now that mention has been removed.

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Apple this morning updated the iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura "All New Features" pages to scrub any mention of HDR10+ support for the ‌Apple TV‌ app. Here's what it said:

HDR10+ support
The latest generation of high dynamic range technology is now supported in the Apple TV app.

The removal of the HDR10+ mention from all three sites suggests that the feature is not coming to any version of the TV app after all. There is a chance that Apple could re-add this as a feature in the future, but for now, it looks like those who were anticipating the HDR10+ support feature will not be getting it in iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and macOS Ventura.

Related Forums: iOS 16, macOS Ventura

Top Rated Comments

4jasontv Avatar
25 months ago

That's a bummer

:(

It really sucks that they don't support some of these standards.
Not really. HDR10+ only exists because of Samsung, and it's not anywhere near as good as DV, which Apple already supports. Its name confuses customers who can't differentiate it from HDR, and it segments the market.

what is it and why do we need this? (and which devices would support it?)
It's an advanced form of HDR that competes with Dolby Vision. Samsung TVs are the primary promotor of HDR+.

Here is a basic breakdown of the differences, courtesy of rtings ('https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/hdr10-vs-dolby-vision').

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]HDR10[/TD]
[TD]HDR10+[/TD]
[TD]Dolby Vision[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bit Depth[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Peak Brightness Minimum[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Peak Brightness Maximum[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tone Mapping[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Better[/TD]
[TD]Best[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Metadata[/TD]
[TD]Static[/TD]
[TD]Dynamic[/TD]
[TD]Dynamic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TV Support[/TD]
[TD]Amazing[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Content Availability[/TD]
[TD]Best[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Score: 34 Votes (Like | Disagree)
hagjohn Avatar
25 months ago
It really sucks that they don't support some of these standards.
Score: 12 Votes (Like | Disagree)
ikjadoon Avatar
25 months ago

Not really. HDR10+ only exists because of Samsung, and it's not anywhere near as good as DV, which Apple already supports. Its name confuses customers who can't differentiate it from HDR, and it segments the market.

It's an advanced form of HDR that competes with Dolby Vision. Samsung TVs are the primary promotor of HDR+.

Here is a basic breakdown of the differences, courtesy of rtings ('https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/hdr10-vs-dolby-vision').

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]HDR10[/TD]
[TD]HDR10+[/TD]
[TD]Dolby Vision[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bit Depth[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Peak Brightness Minimum[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Peak Brightness Maximum[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tone Mapping[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Better[/TD]
[TD]Best[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Metadata[/TD]
[TD]Static[/TD]
[TD]Dynamic[/TD]
[TD]Dynamic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]TV Support[/TD]
[TD]Amazing[/TD]
[TD]Good[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Content Availability[/TD]
[TD]Best[/TD]
[TD]Great[/TD]
[TD]Excellent[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
You’ve missed the conclusion from RTINGS.

HDR10+ is sometimes the only dynamic HDR available. See this lengthy list. ('https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/everything-on-amazon-prime-video-in-hdr10-dolby-vision-andor-dolby-atmos/42831') By refusing to support it, you’re back down to HDR10 (static HDR).


TVs that support both formats have an advantage, and you'll see content in their proper dynamic format.
Apple screwed up by not including both formats.

Hulu uses HDR10+. On ATV 4K, you can only get basic HDR10.

Paramount+ uses HDR10+. On ATV 4K, you’re degraded down to HDR10.

Add Prime Video, Google Play, and YouTube as HDR10+ services.

It’s not as cut and dry as you’re claiming. All modern TVs (and thus content players) should include both.
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Realityck Avatar
25 months ago

what is it and why do we need this? (and which devices would support it?)
It was an alternative to Dolby Vision that Samsung pushed, not many TVs supported it. If your TV supports HDR10 and DV you have nothing to gain. Samsung, Panasonic TVs (not sold in the USA) have it, but then Panasonic also supports DV.
Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)
turbineseaplane Avatar
25 months ago
That's a bummer

:(
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
4jasontv Avatar
25 months ago

Exactly. Having only about 32% of all TV market share- the largest share of the television pie- Samsung TVs should not be fed a royalty-free, open source alternative to Dolby Vision. Stick with an option NOT supported on about a third of all televisions everywhere.

Sarcasm aside: we should not automatically hate this because Samsung is involved. Apple still uses things from Samsung and we seem to be OK with it when Apple chooses Samsung over other alternatives for parts & pieces. And this particular thing would make some key offerings from Apple work better with the highest market share brand of televisions out there.

Objectively, Dolby Vision is considered the superior option (and I'm glad AppleTV supports it) but that makes no difference to those in the 32%... unless they want to dump their television and buy another. Through an AppleTV-focused lens, competition like Roku boxes support BOTH, so Apple NOT is leaving something fairly tangible for competing offerings... at least for 32% of TV buyers.
Everything you just said but put on Samsung for refusing to support DV. I can’t fault Apple for supporting the better more popular format. I can blame Samsung for refusing to support a format they don’t control. HDR10+ vs DV is just this generation's BR vs HDDVD.

You’ve missed the conclusion from RTINGS.
HDR10+ is sometimes the only dynamic HDR available. See this lengthy list. ('https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/everything-on-amazon-prime-video-in-hdr10-dolby-vision-andor-dolby-atmos/42831') By refusing to support it, you’re back down to HDR10 (static HDR).



Apple screwed up by not including both formats.

Hulu uses HDR10+. On ATV 4K, you can only get basic HDR10.

Paramount+ uses HDR10+. On ATV 4K, you’re degraded down to HDR10.

Add Prime Video, Google Play, and YouTube as HDR10+ services.

It’s not as cut and dry as you’re claiming. All modern TVs (and thus content players) should include both.
I didn’t miss it. I said HDR10+ by its existence fragments the market. Most, if not all of those movies would be DV if Samsung put DV on their TVs. Samsung wants to sell their DV-less tv and control the HDR format. That makes them worse than Apple because Samsung has a vested interest in the popularity of the format. Apple just wants to give its users the optimal experience, and choice is not always best for people. The best way Apple can do that is to pick a side.

And as far as your examples go...

Hulu, Paramount+, Google Play, and Prime all support Dolby Vision. The only one on your list that doesn't support DV is YouTube, which also doesn't support 5.1 surround sound.
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)

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