U.S. PC Shipments Continue to Slide in 2Q13 as Apple Lags Overall Market

Apple needs to add back the option to Upgrade/Replace components . Like Ram and the HDD/SDD back to its lines , thats the reason ill be going back to a PC for my new desktop at the end of the year,

Whether or not users can upgrade these things themselves isn't going to have much of an effect on sales. The simple fact is that most consumers never do either.

since apple no longer allows upgrades of their machines and the parts they use inside are more or less bottom of the barrel (cheap ram, slow ssds, nics that dont support jumbo frames, some laptops dont even have lan anymore which is useless for large file transfers, no wifi AC until just now)

i got a lenovo y580 instead, for half the price of the retina macbook ($1279) i got the following

Intel i7 3630
15.6" 1920x1080 with 97% color gamut
16GB Corsair vengeance (upgraded)
512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD (one of the fastest ssds you can buy)
256GB Samsung mSATA (for OS)
Bluray burner (optional HDD bracket option for tripple SSDs)
nVidia GTX660M 2GB ram
Intel 6205 2x2 AGN (but this laptop allows me to upgrade to any wifi card i want, so once intel comes out with an AC card i can just upgrade it for not much more than $20, i dont have to buy a whole new laptop)

i just dont see the point of buying something twice the price with half the speed and half the connectivity.

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Apple doesn't sell the most computers. They make the best computers though. Period. The best things in life aren't cheap.

thats strange, they dont make computers at all, Hon hai makes all the computers, the same company that makes HP's computers (more of their business line than consumer).

Hardly a shocker...

Most people use the internet for facebook or reading, videos (RE: consuming content)... why would they buy a $1,000 MacBook Air when they can get an iPad Mini for $300?

And it's not like an update to their Mac line will see a huge surge in sales.

This is why Apple needs to stop screwing with their Prosumers.

Apple's computers, especially the retina macbook pros are build with such good quality that consumers dont need to upgrade every other year, but rather every 3-5 years. Makes sense

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ive yet to hear of an apple product since ooo at least 2006 onwards that hasn't had issues from launch... Screen ghosting on the RMPs for example... (rest of list is Time Capsules 1st gen failing PSUs, Yellowing Screens on i-Devices, GPU failures in MBPs, Screens sucking in dust on iMacs, antenna gate, case cracking on iphone 3 and 3gs, ongoing issues with WiFi every generation , iPhone 5 "chipping of paint", lots of HDD issues)

Never ever buy 1 1st gen apple refresh, they use 1st gen purchasers as beta testers because their quality control and product testing SUCKS due to the attempt at product launch "secrecy"

Id like to see them release a product, which , from day one, lasts 18months without a trip back to apple for a fix

Love the products after they get it right for the Rev 2 boards

Whether or not users can upgrade these things themselves isn't going to have much of an effect on sales. The simple fact is that most consumers never do either.

But many consumers ask "tech" people for advice before they do, and a decent number of technical people have really been turned off by the non-upgradability of the machines. I'd only recommend someone get a spec'd out machine from Apple or get one that is still upgradeable, and both of those options have the highest price premiums of the line.

Compare that to Lenovo which has some of the cheapest options out there and are pretty well considered by many in tech circles, and it can be a tougher sell nowadays.

Apple needs to add back the option to Upgrade/Replace components . Like Ram and the HDD/SDD back to its lines , thats the reason ill be going back to a PC for my new desktop at the end of the year,

And the iPad has removed the need for me to use a laptop at all

Definitely. And bring back the 17" MBP with 4k screen.