Apple Makes Gains in U.S. Smartphone Market Share

I really don't think it's right to call android the largest "smartphone platform", because:

1. Really its "mobile platform" and when you look at the post-PC era, tablets, namely the iPad Market is a big chunk of mobil devices, and when you include these numbers- the iPad has really dominant share making iOS the dominant platform. Looking just at "smartphones" is selective reporting to try and exclude the market where Apple has had the most success, skewing the numbers in favor of android.

2. Android is hugely fragmented. iOS devices are mostly all running the latest iOS software and even ones that aren't can all run apps without modification. This is not true on android where covering %80 of the market requires changing your app to support 167!!! different devices.

3. I don't consider android to really be a platform, simply because it is so compromised. As a ripoff of iOS they had to rush it to market and in doing so compromised a lot of functionality.

4. Android is primarily sold to feature phone buyers as if it were a featurephone. These people walk in to get "a phone" and get sold android by the weenies at the carriers store... but they don't use them for apps or for even browsing the web, which is why the web stats on android are so pitiful. Android is really a feature phone operating system (hence the fragmentation and incompatibility)

5. You'd be just as correct to lump all the other Linux derivatives together and claim that there's a "linux smartphone platform".

6. We don't have real hard numbers for shipping devices for android. Amazon doesn't publish actual numbers. Google doesn't publish actual numbers. Samsung doesn't publish actual numbers. There's a lot of hype and BS claims that these devices are selling in huge numbers, but when samsung was forced to report actual sales in the lawsuit last year, it turns out that when journalists were claiming big sales the reality was pitiful. Most of these "sales" are actually non-android featurephones also sold by these companies who don't break them out because they want to seem more dominant than they are.

Get me real numbers reported in annual or quarterly reports that would result in an investigation by the SEC and charges of fraud if they were made up-- and use those.

Apple provides them. Until android manufacturers are willing to report the numbers under penalty of perjury like Apple does, they're just PR smoke, nothing more. (or analysts "projections")

These stats are being distorted by the propaganda of android fans who claim that it is a platform, and a smartphone platform at that and that it is dominant

Considering that there are only 6 iPhone models and at least 1000 Android phones I wouldn't say that 37.8% (iOS) to 52.3% (Android) is too bad of a margin

People use iPhones more because they last longer. It's not built from really poor quality plastic (ala Samsung). It's got software updates for at least twice or thrice as long as Android based devices (exception are Nexus devices). And let's not forget there are better quality apps on iOS in general. Oh and iOS is easier to use and the interface is consistent across multiple devices, multiple versions of the OS.

Meh. Neither Android nor iOS are ever going to disappear, and seasonal changes are to be expected.

I'm sure when the S4 comes out, we'll see a spike in Android marketshare.

And when the 5S comes out, we'll see a spike in iOS marketshare.

etc.

EDIT: Oh !@#$, I didn't notice at first that Microsoft actually lost marketshare. Did it ever even go above, like, 5%?

Jeez.

Yet AAPL is down for the day. Can't please Wall Street. :rolleyes:

Sad sad post.

BTW - "rushed to market" ? Yeah - maybe MAYBE OS1.0 - but now? Not so much. ICS and JB weren't "rushed" no matter how much you really want to say it.

What functionality has been compromised in Android. Name some.

Your rationalization is hilarious.

Lastly - why so defensive and dismissive? Someone at Google kidnap a loved one?

I really don't think it's right to call android the largest "smartphone platform", because:

1. Really its "mobile platform" and when you look at the post-PC era, tablets, namely the iPad Market is a big chunk of mobil devices, and when you include these numbers- the iPad has really dominant share making iOS the dominant platform. Looking just at "smartphones" is selective reporting to try and exclude the market where Apple has had the most success, skewing the numbers in favor of android.

2. Android is hugely fragmented. iOS devices are mostly all running the latest iOS software and even ones that aren't can all run apps without modification. This is not true on android where covering %80 of the market requires changing your app to support 167!!! different devices.

3. I don't consider android to really be a platform, simply because it is so compromised. As a ripoff of iOS they had to rush it to market and in doing so compromised a lot of functionality.

4. Android is primarily sold to feature phone buyers as if it were a featurephone. These people walk in to get "a phone" and get sold android by the weenies at the carriers store... but they don't use them for apps or for even browsing the web, which is why the web stats on android are so pitiful. Android is really a feature phone operating system (hence the fragmentation and incompatibility)

5. You'd be just as correct to lump all the other Linux derivatives together and claim that there's a "linux smartphone platform".

6. We don't have real hard numbers for shipping devices for android. Amazon doesn't publish actual numbers. Google doesn't publish actual numbers. Samsung doesn't publish actual numbers. There's a lot of hype and BS claims that these devices are selling in huge numbers, but when samsung was forced to report actual sales in the lawsuit last year, it turns out that when journalists were claiming big sales the reality was pitiful. Most of these "sales" are actually non-android featurephones also sold by these companies who don't break them out because they want to seem more dominant than they are.

Get me real numbers reported in annual or quarterly reports that would result in an investigation by the SEC and charges of fraud if they were made up-- and use those.

Apple provides them. Until android manufacturers are willing to report the numbers under penalty of perjury like Apple does, they're just PR smoke, nothing more. (or analysts "projections")

These stats are being distorted by the propaganda of android fans who claim that it is a platform, and a smartphone platform at that and that it is dominant

Maybe one of these days Apple's share price will again reflect reality.

these arent as fun when apple loses share. Then we can all yell DEATH DEATH DEATH

Another one with their head in the sand.
Apple's market share for tablets is just under 50% and falling steady.
(43.6% as of Q4 2012)


Market share 4Q 2011 1Q 2012 2Q 2012 3Q 2012 4Q 2012
Apple 51.6% 67.8% 68.2% 46.6% 43.6%
Samsung 7.3% 6.9% 9.6% 15.1% 15.1%
Amazon 15.9% 4.1% 5.0% 8.3% 11.5%
ASUS 2.0% NA 3.4% 7.8% 5.8%
Barnes & Noble 4.6% NA NA 0.7% 1.9%
Acer NA NA 1.5% NA NA
Other 18.5% 21.2% 12.3% 21.6% 22.0%
Total 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0%

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2013/02/02/apples-ipad-market-share-slips-farther-below-50/

Here is a thought for you. The Kindle Fire and Samsung Galaxy tab are toys. The IPad has 93% of enterprise market share. Read the Amazon reviews. Most people buying a Fire also own an IPad, with many buying the Fire for their kids due to parental controls.
http://media.www1.good.com/documents/Good-Q4-Device-Activations.pdf

The only reason anyone knows what the GS3 is has to do with the 12billion dollar anti-apple advertising blitzkrieg that Samsung has been pushing. An overwhelming number of GS3 owners purchased it due to advertising combined with Carriers pushing it before the IPhone 5 due to LTE. Google "Cracked GS3". The GS3 is an expensive phone, built with stolen designs, that break easily and cost a fortune to fix. Android is a competent OS, built around stolen ideas, that is being used by cell phone makers to sell massive amounts of devices without having to build their own software.

http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/29/the-cost-of-selling-galaxies/

I can't be wrong about something I never said. You telling a flat out, bald faced lie, and then attacking me with it shows your profound dishonesty.

There's no point in even engaging a dishonest person in debate.

You just lost, and showed us all what kind of a person you are.

It was never a debate. Android has more market share than Apple.
It's a fact.