Apple Begins Refunding Lion Overcharges


Apple has started refunding users who were charged multiple times for their Lion purchases. We reported last week on a user whose checking account was drained of nearly $4,000 when he was charged 122 times for Lion. The email above was sent to a user who was charged 8 times.

John Christman, the user who was charged 122 times was eventually made whole:

Apple kept me on a very need-to-know basis all along, but once I confirmed the money was in my PayPal account, he then asked for a list of fees to review. Once he saw the fees (very minimal), he offered to pay them and give me a bit extra to pay any additional fees I incur.

Other users who were double charged may see similar emails soon.

Top Rated Comments

(View all)
Avatar
118 months ago
I hope Apple ended up giving that guy lion for free.
Score: 34 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Avatar
118 months ago

The fella got his money back, he deserves no more than that. The faster the world learns that suing and seeking damages is not the only solution to their problems, the better!

When you mess with somebody's mortgage payment, they deserve more than there money back. This can create credit problems... I'm usually with those thinking that suing has gone overboard but in this situation, it may merit legal action.
Score: 22 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Avatar
118 months ago

Yes but it was his fault also. Credit card!, Credit card!, Credit card!


What if you choose not to have a credit card?
Score: 17 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Avatar
118 months ago

how about some personal responsibilty. yes it wasn't his fault but you shouldn't link a debit card for things like this. this is exactly what credit cards are for. if you do a dispute it doesn't tie up all your bank account funds.


I fully agree with the "personal responsibility". It was Apple's fault to take the extra money, so they must take responsibility and put it all right.
Score: 15 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Avatar
118 months ago

The only entity at fault is Apple. PayPal is a payment processor that does what Apple asks. The consumer was consuming. The bank allowed the payment processor to do what it does. Apple caused this.

You guys are saying that if he had used a credit card, there would have been more of a dispute process, but there is no dispute, this was Apple's system going haywire in a once-in-a-lifetime fluke. If you wanna blame someone for the speed at which banks work, blame the banks' EFT/ACH system. But Apple still screwed people regardless of what above-and-beyond precautions the consumer didn't take.

And I GUARANTEE that the $4k guy could get something more from Apple if he complained even just a little.


yes but if he used a credit card he would still have his money to pay his morgage while the banks/apple figure it. so silly people can not grasp that.
these things happen all the time maybe not to this extent but they happen.

It's so silly that people cannot grasp the fact that this should not have happened in the first place.
Score: 11 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Avatar
118 months ago

Why? Because the individual in question cannot properly manage his money financially.
Let's be serious, what type of responsible person doesn't have a six month cushion saved before buying a house? If a $4k overdraft overextends someone to the extent that they can't pay their mortgage, maybe they shouldn't be committing to purchasing a house in the first place? And, maybe they shouldn't be spending $30 on an operating system upgrade if they don't have that cushion.
What happened to personal fiscal responsibility?


Really? You're judging someone because they don't have 6 months saved? You're pretty daft if you think this man is in any way at fault for APPLE charging his account 120 times.

God forbid he try and spend $30..... wow what a moron.`
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)

Top Stories

Apple-Acquired Dark Sky Officially Shuts Down Android App

Saturday August 1, 2020 3:43 pm PDT by
Apple in March purchased weather app Dark Sky, and at that time, Dark Sky's developers said that the app's Android version would be discontinued on July 1, 2020. However, instead of shuttering the app on that date, the app's developers announced that the discontinuation would be delayed for another month. Now that it's August, Android users are no longer able to access the app, and...

Apple May Launch This Year's 'iPhone 12' Lineup in Two Stages, With 6.1-inch Models Debuting First

Monday August 3, 2020 3:14 am PDT by
Apple last week confirmed that its "‌iPhone‌ 12" launch will be delayed this year due to the ongoing global health crisis and restrictions on travel. Apple last year started selling iPhones in late September, but this year, Apple projects supply will be "available a few weeks later," suggesting a release sometime in October. We're expecting a total of four OLED iPhones in 5.4, 6.1, and...

Top Stories: Try the 5.4-Inch iPhone 12 Display Size, Blockbuster Earnings, Tim Cook at Antitrust Hearing

Saturday August 1, 2020 6:00 am PDT by
Another busy week of Apple news and rumors has wrapped up, with a lot of focus on Tim Cook's appearance at a Congressional antitrust hearing and a blockbuster earnings report. Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos. We continued to hear rumors about the upcoming iPhone 12 lineup, including a rare admission from Apple that the lineup will launch "a few weeks later" than...

Just How Small Will the 5.4-Inch iPhone 12 Screen Be? Try It Out for Yourself

Tuesday July 28, 2020 12:57 pm PDT by
As rumors of the iPhone 12 have continued to build over the past few months, the one model that has the most excitement around it is the smallest 5.4" model. The iPhone 12 is believed to be coming in 5.4", 6.7", and 6.1" sizes. Dummy models have shown how much smaller the 5.4" is compared to the rest of the iPhone lineup. The upcoming 5.4" iPhone falls in-between the size of the original...

Unreleased iPod Touch with Mac Pro Glossy Black Finish Shared Online

Sunday August 2, 2020 11:32 am PDT by
Twitter user @DongleBookPro has today posted images of what seems to be a first-generation iPod Touch prototype with a 2013 Mac Pro-style glossy black finish. The Twitter user claims that the iPod Touch prototype pictured has "the same coating as the 2013 Mac Pro." Had the finish been selected for the final product, it also would have been similar to the metallic glossy black finish that...

Apple Confirms This Year's iPhone 12 Models Will Be a Little Bit Late

Thursday July 30, 2020 2:34 pm PDT by
During today's earnings call covering the third fiscal quarter of 2020 (second calendar quarter) Apple CFO Luca Maestri confirmed that Apple is expecting to release this year's iPhones later than usual. Maestri said that Apple last year started selling iPhones in late September, but this year, Apple projects supply will be "available a few weeks later." Multiple rumors have suggested that ...

Battery Likely for Upcoming Apple Watch Series 6 Filed in Certification Listings

Saturday August 1, 2020 5:46 am PDT by
A battery likely for the upcoming Apple Watch Series 6 has been filed at the Korea Testing and Research Institute and discovered by a Twitter user @yabhishekhd. Certification for a 1.17Wh battery with a capacity of 303.8mAh was issued on June 23 by the KTR, a Korean regulatory body that approves and tests new hardware ahead of public sale. The battery seems to be destined for a future...

Apple Watch Series 6 to Feature Blood Oxygen Monitoring Sensor

Friday July 31, 2020 1:56 am PDT by
The Apple Watch Series 6 will add blood oxygen monitoring to its features list when it's launched later this year, according to a new report from DigiTimes. Apple Watch 6 will feature biosensors that can monitor sleeping conditions, detect blood oxygen and measure pulse rates, heartbeats and atrial fibrillation, and will also incorporate MEMS-based accelerometer and gyroscope, all allowing the ...

Apple Marks Return of NHL With New 'Hockey Tape' Ad Shot on iPhone 11 Pro

Saturday August 1, 2020 2:33 am PDT by
Apple today marked the return of NHL hockey with a new "Shot on iPhone" ad on its YouTube channel in Canada. Titled "Hockey Tape," the 30-second video features Vegas Golden Knights players Marc-André Fleury and Mark Stone having some on-ice fun with the iPhone 11 Pro, which they attach to the boards, a hockey stick, and a skate with hockey tape. "See the game like never before with Ultra ...

Emails Reveal Why Steve Jobs and Phil Schiller Blocked In-App Purchase of Kindle Books

Friday July 31, 2020 6:25 am PDT by
Internal Apple emails, made public by the House Judiciary Committee's antitrust inquiry, have revealed information about why Apple blocked in-app purchases of Kindle books on iOS devices, reports The Verge. Two sets of emails between Steve Jobs, Phil Schiller, Eddy Cue, and various other senior Apple executives, disclose the exact thinking behind how Apple approached Kindle on iOS. The...