New iPod Touch Coming Later This Year as a Minor Update?

Earlier this month, new references to unreleased iPad models were discovered in iOS 5, but the lack of any mention of unreleased iPod touch models led to some concern that Apple might not be planning an update to the popular line this year.

ipod42 plist
But a bit more digging by iFans has in fact turned up a reference to an unreleased iPod touch model designated as "iPod4,2". The current iPod touch is designated "iPod4,1".

Up until now, only mentions of “iPod4,1,” the current iPod touch model, have been discovered in iOS 5 property lists. However, some snooping by iFans forum user shamrock has indeed yielded mention of an unreleased iPod touch model: “iPod4,2″ in the file /System/Library/LaunchDaemons /com.apple.fairplayd.N81.plist

What's more interesting is the use of the "iPod4,2" reference instead of "iPod5,1", suggesting that Apple considers the new model to only be a minor update to the existing iPod touch. Apple briefly used this naming convention once before in its iPod touch line when an "iPod2,2" reference showed up in iOS 3.0 betas in early 2009. No such product was ever released, however, as all of the third-generation iPod touch models released later that year carried the "iPod3,1" designation, which had also been found in the iOS 3.0 code. Consequently, it is possible that Apple could still have an "iPod5,1" in the works as the next update, but no signs of such of a device have yet been found in iOS 5.

To find an instance of Apple actually shipping an "X,2" product as a minor update, we can turn to the iPhone where Apple dubbed the iPhone 3G as "iPhone1,2", considering it a minor update update over the original iPhone despite a redesigned case and new 3G compatibility, among other changes. The iPhone 3GS released the following year interestingly warranted a major new "iPhone2,1" designation despite a nearly identical external appearance to the iPhone 3G, although the device's internals were significantly upgraded.

Update: TUAW notes that this iPod4,2 reference is also in iOS 4.3, not just iOS 5.

Update 2: TUAW has retracted its earlier claim of the iPod4,2 reference being present in iOS 4.3.3. The reference does in fact appear to be new in iOS 5.

Related Roundup: iPod touch
Buyer's Guide: iPod Touch (Don't Buy)

Top Rated Comments

ftaok Avatar
127 months ago
Would the dual-core A5 and better camera specs be considered a "minor" update? Hmm. Hope so.
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
KnightWRX Avatar
127 months ago
Just cannot find a reason for a itouch if you have an iphone.
Wait, when did the iPhone replace a wireless keyboard made by Logitech ? :confused:

This could be why the back to school promo was a giftcard instead of an iPod, if there's no major update they don't really have a reason to get rid of their supply.
No, the BTS promo was a gift card because the Mac App Store doesn't seem to be doing as well as Apple hoped. It's also why Lion is going to be a MAS exclusive.

If the MAS was doing well, they would have flaunted the numbers during the WWDC keynote, like they did with the iOS App Store.

That's my take on it at least.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)
sittnick Avatar
127 months ago
The relevance of the iPod Touch

I purchased the iPod Touch 2G when it came out because it DIDN'T have a phone. At the time, I didn't even own a cell phone. I now have a "dumb" cell phone because I have a 90 mile commute, but I use it maybe 1% of the time and use prepay.

I love the fact that I can browse my contact list on my iPod Touch while talking on the Cell. I couldn't do that if an iPhone unless I used a headset/earpiece.

Besides people like me who don't really want my portable browser/video player/MP3 player as a phone, there are still plenty of folks who don't want a phone contract, or are on incompatible carriers. $200 or so gets you into the game... that's doable.

The iPod Touch also provides a nice intro to iOS that the other iPods dont. If I were to get a Smartphone with a contract, it would be an iPhone. I might not have been able to say that if I hadn't had an ioverall positive experience with the Touch.
Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)
cvaldes Avatar
127 months ago
Just cannot find a reason for a itouch if you have an iphone. UNLESS you have like a huge amount of music you need to store.
You don't get it.

The iPod touch and iPhone have different demographics. The iPod touch is mostly used by 13-24 year old consumers. The iPhone is mostly used by the 25-55 year old age group. Kids can't afford to shell out for cellular plans; you really need a job.

Steve himself said that the iPod touch was training wheels for the iPhone.

The iPod touch is not going away; it is now the top selling iPod. Apple sells two iPod touches for every three iPhones. Apple is building the next generation of iPhone owners by selling iPod touches.
Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)
ESPN Avatar
127 months ago
A5 Processor
RAM upgrade
5MP camera

I think this would be a minor update,





a major one would be

128GB
A5 processor
5MP camera with LED flash
RAM upgrade
Magnetometer
IPS display
1MP front facing camera
Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)
mosx Avatar
127 months ago
I don't see why some people are talking about how it'd be good for Apple to phase out the iPod touch in favor of low-end iPhones.

Not everyone wants a smartphone. And iPad proves not everyone wants a cellular radio in everything.

I know plenty of actual adults, young and old, who have an iPod touch and a regular "dumb phone". They want the iOS device but don't want a "phone" anywhere near it. Especially considering how cheap and good prepaid services can be these days. If I didn't have an iPhone (I love my iPhone 4 but I kick myself every day for renewing my contract with AT&T a year ago to buy it), I'd have no problem carrying a regular "dumb" phone and iPod touch. Before the original iPhone I had no problem carrying an iPod mini and dumb phone. Then 80GB iPod 5.5G and dumb phone.

With iPod touch sales increasing and becoming the most popular iPod, theres no reason for them to phase it out.

All they need to do is continue to improve it. Get rid of the stainless steel back. For the love of all things good, PLEASE get rid of the stainless steel back.

Put better cameras on it. Read something some time ago about a 3.2MP camera sensor that was available that would fit in the iPod touch form factor. Use that.

Bump it up to A5 with 512MB of RAM. Thats all.

Theres always going to be a market for the iPod touch and sales prove it. You don't sell tens of millions of something if theres no market for it.

The same way theres always going to be a market for something like the iPod nano. Even though sales of it might be going down, the market for it will always be there in one way or another.
Score: 2 Votes (Like | Disagree)

Top Stories

iphone 6 in hand

Apple Faces Another iPhone Lawsuit Over 'Programmed Obsolescence'

Monday March 1, 2021 6:44 am PST by
Apple faces a new class-action lawsuit that accuses it of deliberately releasing iOS updates that slowly reduce the performance of an iPhone, forcing customers to upgrade their devices. The lawsuit comes from the Portuguese Consumer Protection Agency, Deco Proteste (via Marketeer), which in a statement says that it will proceed with a case against the Cupertino tech giant because it...
PIA23764 RoverNamePlateonMars web

NASA Mars Perseverance Rover Uses Same PowerPC Chipset Found in 1998 G3 iMac

Tuesday March 2, 2021 3:21 am PST by
NASA's Perseverance rover, which recently made history landing on the surface of Mars, is powered by the same processor used in an iMac more than 23 years old. Image Credit: NASA As reported by NewScientist (via Gizmodo), the rover includes the PowerPC 750 processor, the same chip used in the G3 iMac in 1998. The main chipset is the same; however, there are differences between the...
magsafe charging brick feature

Prosser: iPhone 12 MagSafe Battery Pack to Feature Reverse Charging

Monday March 1, 2021 1:18 pm PST by
Apple is working on MagSafe-compatible battery packs that will be compatible with the iPhone 12 models, and leaker Jon Prosser today said on the Genius Bar podcast that one version of the battery pack will feature "reverse charging." According to Prosser, Apple is working on two versions of the battery packs, one that's a standard version and one that's a premium version with reverse...
iphone 12 pro display video

iPhone 13 to Include 1TB Storage Option and LiDAR Across the Board, Says Wedbush Analyst

Monday March 1, 2021 4:00 am PST by
Apple's forthcoming iPhone 13 could include a 1TB storage option for some models and LiDAR Scanners across the entire lineup, according to a report from Wedbush analysts. In a new note to investors, seen by MacRumors, Wedbush analyst Daniel Ives said that initial Asian supply chain checks gave the firm "increased confidence" that Apple's 5G-driven product cycle would extend well into 2022,...
Top Stories 47 Feature copy

Top Stories: MacBook Pro, iMac, and AirPods Rumors, macOS 11.2.2, MagSafe Wallet Revisited

Saturday February 27, 2021 6:00 am PST by
March is right around the corner, and that means our first good opportunity for Apple product launches in 2021 as the company frequently has significant launches in March or April each year. We're hearing rumors about MacBook Pro, iMac, AirPods, and more, although many of these will be coming out at different times over the course of the year. This week also saw a macOS update to address a ...
microsoft edge ios android

Bill Gates Says His Preference for Android Over iPhone is Due to Pre-Installed Software

Friday February 26, 2021 3:35 am PST by
Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates this week participated in his first meeting on Clubhouse, the increasingly popular invite-only conversation app, where he fielded a range of questions as part of an ongoing book tour. Gates was interviewed by journalist Andrew Ross Sorkin, and given that the Clubhouse app is currently only available on iOS, naturally one of the questions that came up was...
iphone 12 120hz thumbnail feature

Kuo: iPhone 13 Lineup to Feature Smaller Notch and Larger Batteries, 120Hz Display for Pro Models, and More

Monday March 1, 2021 7:50 am PST by
iPhone 13 models will all feature a smaller notch, while the two Pro models will be equipped with low-power LTPO display technology for a 120Hz refresh rate, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said today in a research note obtained by MacRumors. Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos. Several other sources have previously claimed that some iPhone 13 models will support a 120Hz refresh...
maxresdefault

HomeKit Essentials Worth Checking Out

Saturday February 27, 2021 7:05 am PST by
HomeKit was slow to take off after its 2014 launch, but now that it's been around for seven years, there are hundreds of HomeKit products available, ranging from doorbells and speakers to TVs, lights, and cameras. In our latest YouTube video, we rounded up some of our favorite HomeKit products that we find most useful. Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos. HomePod...
First Look Big Sur Feature2

Apple Releases macOS Big Sur 11.2.2 to Prevent MacBooks From Being Damaged by Third-Party Non-Compliant Docks

Thursday February 25, 2021 10:07 am PST by
Apple today released macOS Big Sur 11.2.2, the fourth update to the macOS Big Sur operating system that launched in November. macOS Big Sur 11.2.2 comes two weeks after the release of macOS Big Sur 11.2.1, a bug fix update. The new ‌‌‌‌macOS Big Sur‌‌‌ 11.2.2‌ update can be downloaded for free on all eligible Macs using the Software Update section of System Preferences....
Apple Prefer Lightning Over USB C Feature

iPhone Sticking With Lightning Port Over USB-C for 'Foreseeable Future'

Tuesday March 2, 2021 9:32 am PST by
Apple will retain the Lightning connector on the iPhone for the "foreseeable future," with no intention of switching to USB-C, according to reliable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. In spite of much of the industry moving toward USB-C, Apple will not be using it to replace the Lightning connector on the iPhone 13, or indeed on any iPhone model for the time being. In a note seen by MacRumors yesterday,...