Apple Seeds Ninth Beta of Upcoming tvOS 11 Update to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

You think the Apply TV 3 had a bad remote!? Wait until you try the 4K remote (which I assume they'll cheap out and use the same remote as the current one). It's terrible. Probably one of the worst remotes I've ever used. It looks nice, but functionality wise(the most important thing), it's bad.

[doublepost=1504201748][/doublepost]Hopefully AirPlay works reliably finally. In iOS 10 as soon as my phone screen locks my AirPlay content cuts off.

Couldn't disagree more. I love this remote. Battery lasts forever, perfect size, and it's a damn trackpad for your TV. I understand it's irritating to pick it up upside down, but I don't care.

My kids lost the remote. Don't know where it went. Yikes.

Yea, I wish it had a lost mode on it.

I just wish it had a mute button.

Mute would be nice. Pause suffices most of the time.
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My kids lost the remote. Don't know where it went. Yikes.

Tell them no TV until they find the remote.

The current remote is utterly terrible and is one of the worst reviewed products in Apple's history. It currently has 1.5 stars on Apple's own site.

Agreed. It's horrible. You inadvertently swipe the pad all the time and it skims playback of what you're watching forward or backward, so you have to find where you were.

It's symmetrical and difficult to tell what is the front and back so you press a button thinking it's pause when it's actually MENU so you go to the menu instead of pausing.

Controlling the selection up/down/left/right is like trying to use a mouse when you're really drunk. I like tactile buttons for this.

But the UI for the Apple TV and the most popular apps is really bad. Like Hulu on Apple TV 4 is a joke. It's so much better on my PS3! It makes no sense. And HBO? Please just give me the ability to put a show on a list, not individual episodes.

And the TV app doesn't work with Netflix.

Couldn't disagree more. I love this remote. Battery lasts forever, perfect size, and it's a damn trackpad for your TV. I understand it's irritating to pick it up upside down, but I don't care.

I just wish it had a mute button.

I have mixed feelings about the Siri Remote.

I hate the constant swiping involved with browsing things, and swiping and selecting letters for searching is horrible. It is too easy to swipe and select the wrong thing. I hate it for games.

The Siri Remote is not perfect, but I use it as my primary TV remote, and I'm quite happy with it in modified form: I put a Griffin Survivor Play ('https://griffintechnology.com/us/survivor-play-for-siri-remote') case on it, which makes it grippy, a little easier to tell end-from-end, and much easier to pick up off a flat surface (the case bottom is contoured to be ergonomic, this also raises it up off the table), and I put Apple's Remote Loop ('https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLFQ2AM/A/remote-loop') wrist strap on it - I never use it as a wrist strap, it just serves as a tail that makes it stupidly easy to tell which end is which without looking. Both of these also make the remote a little harder to misplace.

Modified this way, I find the remote quite pleasant to use, and much prefer the touchpad to D-pads. Most remotes have a ton of buttons you don't actually need, and which have to reach over to get to the ones you do need, while the Siri Remote has just what's needed and it's all right under my thumb. It's compact, easy to use, and very responsive (the Logitech Harmony 650, which I use to turn everything on, shut everything down, and once in a while watch broadcast TV with, by comparison... the buttons feel squishy and slow to react, as well as having 8 useful buttons spread out randomly amongst 50+ others).

Talking to Siri is great, except when it isn't (as a side effect, being able to tell the TV remote in my hand to change the room lighting is pretty awesome). And the scrolling to input text is a pain but is also fairly rare - if I have much of that to do, I'll simply reach for my phone and use the remote app.

I'm not about to argue that the Siri Remote is great, out-of-the-box - they clearly went for "this is the most elegant remote we've ever made" rather than for ergonomics, and I shouldn't have to modify it. But in modified form, it's my favorite remote.

Come on Apple TV4K I'm most excited about that. I can't wait to upgrade from 3rd gen. It's getting frustrating to use.
Also does anyone else think the Apple TV remote prior to the current release is the most horrible remote ever? I don't like the feel. My thumb slips and press select instead of direction. It's too seemlessly close to each other. I hope the current remote solves this problem.

The current remote is utterly terrible and is one of the worst reviewed products in Apple's history. It currently has 1.5 stars on Apple's own site.

Also does anyone else think the Apple TV remote prior to the current release is the most horrible remote ever? I don't like the feel. My thumb slips and press select instead of direction. It's too seemlessly close to each other. I hope the current remote solves this problem.

You think the Apply TV 3 had a bad remote!? Wait until you try the 4K remote (which I assume they'll cheap out and use the same remote as the current one). It's terrible. Probably one of the worst remotes I've ever used. It looks nice, but functionality wise(the most important thing), it's bad.

[doublepost=1504201748][/doublepost]Hopefully AirPlay works reliably finally. In iOS 10 as soon as my phone screen locks my AirPlay content cuts off.

Couldn't disagree more. I love this remote. Battery lasts forever, perfect size, and it's a damn trackpad for your TV. I understand it's irritating to pick it up upside down, but I don't care.

agree... I fixed this by adding the wriststrap accessory!

also go tigers

9th beta. Is that a record or something?