Swift Creator and Former Apple Engineer Chris Lattner Joins Google's AI Team

A company-jumper. The grass is always greener on the other side. Until he finds out it isn't (lasted barely 6 months at Tesla).

I know a lot of Silicon Valley 'company-jumpers' and Chris is not one of them. He was at Apple from 2005 to 2017. Most people I know are at a new startup every 6-12 months. Just because after 12 years at Apple, he was not a good fit with Teslas (ethos, culture, programming, management, whatever it was) and is now at Google doesn't make him a company jumper.

Now, 5 years from now, if he's worked at 10 different companies, your opinion may be valid.

Lots of companies look all nice & yummy from the outside. Then when you finally do get hired, you soon find out about all the petty infighting & incompetent hostile managers. Been there. Done that. Jumping companies is very risky cuz you never know what snake pit you'll end up in. Could very well be worse than the hell-hole you're already in.

He did a very wrong move the moment he stepped out of Apple’s door.

Now he’s working on better ways to data mine people’s emails and photos, and serve more annoying ads on YouTube.

A company-jumper. The grass is always greener on the other side. Until he finds out it isn't (lasted barely 6 months at Tesla).

Here's his full employment history since leaving the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

2005 - January 2017: Apple
January 2017 - June 2017: Tesla
Hired August 2017 by Google

Yeah, that doesn't really fit the "company jumper" profile. It looks like he just didn't fit well at Tesla.

Don't know why he had to even bother posting anything on Twitter when Google gladly takes any of Apple's former employees.

A company-jumper. The grass is always greener on the other side. Until he finds out it isn't (lasted barely 6 months at Tesla).

The one thing that strikes me about him is a complete lack of loyalty. He makes purely selfish decisions, but the world is ultimately better for it, because the guy is a genius.

He spent 12 years at Apple. That's not an indication of loyalty or lack thereof, but what do you see as an indication of selfish decisions? Genuinely confused by your comment.

(lasted barely 6 months at Tesla).

That seems like just the sort of detail that might of been included in the article...

So you or someone you know has never gone in for a role and then had it not work out? Doesn't make you a company jumper. :rolleyes:

Google pays Apple $1B+/year to let them mine your data.

Source?


Edit: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/google-paying-apple-3-billion-to-remain-default-search--bernstein.html

Google ('https://www.cnbc.com/quotes?symbol=GOOGL') is paying Apple ('https://www.cnbc.com/quotes?symbol=AAPL') billions of dollars to remain the default search engine on iPhones and iPads, Bernstein said in a note to investors on Monday.

I'm not sure why Google remaining the default search engine on Macintosh / iOS = Google mining Apple customers for data.

One would argue that the majority of people using Apple devices are already Google customers and would set their default search to Google if given the choice between 4 search engines at device setup but Apple is smart to allow Google to pay them to give the user one less prompt at first boot and users can easily change it to another search engine like DuckDuckGo.

However, it is not disclosed anywhere that Apple is passing any of their customers information to Google beyond what Google collects from every web browser (location, screen size, OS, searched term, etc).

That's taking a story and blowing it way out of proportion to fit your narrative that Apple is just like everyone else and doesn't give a **** about our privacy. They've never done anything that we've found out about to prove the contrary.

The moment it's discovered that Apple is doing way more than they disclose on their privacy site ('https://www.apple.com/privacy/') with our data or they do something opposite to what they've stated, it's going to seriously erode their market cap. User trust is a huge deal to Apple's current success. Everyone expects Google and Facebook to mine and use data against them but with Apple, a lot of our use of their hardware & services is because of the privacy benefits we have.

The fact that a programmer worked at Apple and now Google says nothing about Apple's commitment to privacy. He as an individual chose to work at Google. Twisting it into a narrative about Google & Apple being the same when it comes to our data is a huge stretch.

A company-jumper. The grass is always greener on the other side. Until he finds out it isn't (lasted barely 6 months at Tesla).

I don't think it was his choice to leave Tesla. It sounds more like he was fired.