Apple Investigating Indonesian Tin Production for Illegal Mining

Translation: Apple has found a way to convert the decimation of the environment (ever seen a smelter?) and the exploitation of starving children for the production of disposable sparklies (for the temporary amusement of the first world, natch) into free advertising about how incredibly socially responsible they are.

lol please go home and burn your house down. everything in there was built off of starving children and/or exploitation of natural resources.

Very glad to see them taking these issues seriously... people are always more valuable than products.

Always.

Who cares why they're doing it? They are still making an effort to responsible sourcing and that's what matters.

I know how this story goes...

1. Apple uncovers problem without waiting for public outcry.

2. Apple publicly announces problem of their own volition, along with specific plans to solve it.

3. Apple follows up publicly on how those plans have progressed.

4. Apple competitors have the same problem, but ignore it, cover it up, or make vague statements not backed up by action.

5. Greenpeace or other group misguidedly places blame on Apple while giving the competitors a free pass. (The Apple name is good for headlines.) This in turn gives honest environmentalists and human rights activists, working for vital causes, a bad name (thus hurting the very cause they intend to support).

6. Media and bloggers bash Apple for causing the problem and call for a boycott (which would only drive business to the competitors who encourage the problem).

7. Everyone is falsely led to believe that Apple only acted after public outcry. (And that other companies never had the problem at all.)

8. Apple gets little credit from the media and bloggers for actually being the one to step up and spend money, in the full light of public disclosure, to improve something important.

9. Astroturfers have a new talking point for the week.

10. Issue is forgotten. Apple continues to improve it anyway. Competitors keep on as always.

lol please go home and burn your house down. everything in there was built off of starving children and/or exploitation of natural resources.

I see.

All exploitation and environmental destruction is therefore inherently ethical.

Thank you for clarifying.

I'm from Bangka island. There are definately a lot of illegal minings. The gov seems do not care much about the destruction of local habitats and the increasingly bad water quality. You can see how the mining industry has destroyed much of the island when you are flying into Bangka.

There is a law that states that you cannot clean the tin on land, so they wash the tin on the sea, near the beach.

You can find this trend not only in Bangka but all over Indonesia.

lol please go home and burn your house down. everything in there was built off of starving children and/or exploitation of natural resources.

that's be polluting lol

lol please go home and burn your house down. everything in there was built off of starving children and/or exploitation of natural resources.

I see.

All exploitation and environmental destruction is therefore inherently ethical.

Thank you for clarifying.

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this is confusing, i understand i was strawmaning you because your argument was ignorant, but i'd assume even you can see the sarcasm in the remark. Put your moneyw here your mouth is, if you have problems against exploitation, don't support it

every

single

day.


although it'd be hard considering there is no computer i know of that doesn't use some sort of chip solder probably made from tin in indonnesia.

who needs soap-operas when we have macrumors

I might be wrong here, but I do not believe that it is right or correct to judge every other country in the world by what are currently american standards. For instance, there was a mention of apple firing a supplier because they were using child labor. That sounds really great on the surface, but is it really? What if those jobs were the only option for those children and without those jobs the children simply starve to death.

Very glad to see them taking these issues seriously... people are always more valuable than products.

Always.

Not Always.

Sorry dude...there are some people that aren't even worth more than the dirt in the ground. They are dredges to humanity and society and are beyond reform or redemption.

There's one of these right now on trial in Boston.