Developers Begin to Update Apps With Retina Support

Macs are in the minority for PC marketshare and this new MBP is a minuscule part of that small percent. But it's making everyone jump.

Not many companies can create knee-jerk reactions like this. #leader

Don't you think that eventually all computers across all brands will move to very high resolution screens like this? Enhancing the apps now only makes good sense for the future.

Very true, but you have to ask, if Acer, HP, or Samsung put this out - would everyone have jumped as quick? :)

VLC! Yes please!

Kind of the LAST application that would be on your list for 'retina' capability...

Your videos arent going to be sharper which is 99% of the reason why you use VLC.

Funny, because I remember someone criticizing Google because Chrome didn't get the instantaneous benefit for text because of their rendering engine...

<sarcasm>But I guess it was because it is Google... </sarcasm>

EDIT: I guess I wasn't clear. I meant that their rendering doesn't benefit from built-in text rendering, but they added support for retina fast enough.

VLC! Yes please!

Macs are in the minority for PC marketshare and this new MBP is a minuscule part of that small percent. But it's making everyone jump.

Not many companies can create knee-jerk reactions like this. #leader

Don't you think that eventually all computers across all brands will move to very high resolution screens like this? Enhancing the apps now only makes good sense for the future.

Kind of the LAST application that would be on your list for 'retina' capability...

Your videos arent going to be sharper which is 99% of the reason why you use VLC.

Yeah but subtitles are going to look fantastic! :)

Yes, but no one did any of it before this MBP came out. Apple is usually a leader in the industry towards the future. But Apple's actions are the ones that actually get the ball rolling. I never meant that it would not have happened without Apple- but Apple's product is what made Google, Adobe, etc. start pushing out these updates.

You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

Windows 7 has a whole architecture set up to let apps use HiDPI elements and display at any arbitrary DPI you might choose.

See this. (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/443-dpi-display-size-settings-change.html)

If the developer has chosen to include calls to the HighDPI user interface (which were available in Windows Vista, too), then their programs will run with high-res visual elements. If not, then Windows will scale low-res screen elements the exact same way that 10.7 does on a new MBP Retina display.

The difference is that you can pick whatever DPI you want in Win7. There are some defaults (the highest default is 144dpi), but you can edit those to be anything (including 220). Windows 8 will apparently be just fine with the Retina MBP out of the box, per AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6008/windows-8-on-the-retina-display-macbook-pro).

Except only WPF apps get that fully - GDI apps just get the whole thing blown up, the OS renders text before magnification. And most stuff is GDI, still. (Even though Microsoft backported WPF to WinXP, specifically so that devs would write WPF apps.)

Or are OS X apps getting blurry text on HiDPI, even when the OS is rendering the font?

So what you're saying is that Microsoft went out of their way to give developers the tools they needed to make High-DPI apps, and developers ignored it and kept doing things the old way.

Reminds me of the companies that were still using PPC-dependent installers for printer drivers or OS X apps for 10.6!

You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

Windows 7 has a whole architecture set up to let apps use HiDPI elements and display at any arbitrary DPI you might choose.

See this. (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/443-dpi-display-size-settings-change.html)

If the developer has chosen to include calls to the HighDPI user interface (which were available in Windows Vista, too), then their programs will run with high-res visual elements. If not, then Windows will scale low-res screen elements the exact same way that 10.7 does on a new MBP Retina display.

The difference is that you can pick whatever DPI you want in Win7. There are some defaults (the highest default is 144dpi), but you can edit those to be anything (including 220). Windows 8 will apparently be just fine with the Retina MBP out of the box, per AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6008/windows-8-on-the-retina-display-macbook-pro).

Too bad even the mouse cursors look hideous in Windows at anything above 150% in their DPI scaling. They can't even get the basics to behave well. Whereas every scaling mode that OS X exposes looks pretty darn great at the moment.