Apple Store Shipping Dates and Buyers Guide Recommendations
The Apple Store updated with last minute Christmas shipping deadlines on Apple products from the Apple Store. All standard configuration Macs must be purchased by December 19th, 2007 with standard shipping or December 21st with overnight shipping to ensure delivery by Christmas.
Our Buyer's Guide, however, does not recommend buying MacBook Pros or Mac Pros at this time due to the long lead time since their last update. Rumors have also placed Mac Pro and MacBook Pro revisions in the near future with number of new Intel processors now available for the future machines. To balance this recommendation, however, readers should realize that updates could still be 1-2 months away, with Macworld Expo (January 15th) being the earliest possible date that these upgrades would be announced. And even if announced at Macworld, actual shipping dates could be delayed beyond that date.
Readers should, however, feel comfortable buying new iPods, as most of the iPod line saw dramatic revisions as recently as September (Classic, Nano, Shuffle, Touch). It seems unlikely that iPods will see major revisions in the near future, though minor storage increases are always possible. iMacs have also been seen relatively recent and significant updates, and could also be comfortably purchased at this time.
Recommendations for Cinema Displays, Mac Minis, Apple TV, MacBook and iPhone are trickier due to individual circumstances and are dealt with separately:
Cinema Displays, Mac Minis - historical data for these updates are inconsistent, with rumors of Mac Mini's possibly being discontinued in the near future. Cinema Displays infrequently get major upgrades, and instead get intermittent price drops. Readers may find greater value in 3rd party LCDs at this time.
MacBook - Despite a November 2007 update, the MacBook could see competition with the Apple Sub-notebook expected at Macworld in January. So, unless you are certain that this ultra-portable will not change your decision, it would be best to wait to buy a MacBook until January 15th.
iPhone, AppleTV - as new consumer electronic devices, Apple has not yet defined the frequency of these updates. Apple TV's future remains entirely open ended as Apple could decide to simply leave its specs stable for some time as it represents an "appliance" device rather than an ongoing platform. However, being a year since its introduction, we would buy cautiously.
The iPhone, however, has more pressure to receive timely updates due to ongoing competition. The iPhone is rumored to see its next major revision in Mid-to-Late 2008. The biggest upgrade expected is a 3G chipset which has been promised for 2008. Whether or not to buy an iPhone now really depends on the your individual need for 3G and if potentially waiting until late 2008 is feasible.
Our Buyer's Guide, however, does not recommend buying MacBook Pros or Mac Pros at this time due to the long lead time since their last update. Rumors have also placed Mac Pro and MacBook Pro revisions in the near future with number of new Intel processors now available for the future machines. To balance this recommendation, however, readers should realize that updates could still be 1-2 months away, with Macworld Expo (January 15th) being the earliest possible date that these upgrades would be announced. And even if announced at Macworld, actual shipping dates could be delayed beyond that date.
Readers should, however, feel comfortable buying new iPods, as most of the iPod line saw dramatic revisions as recently as September (Classic, Nano, Shuffle, Touch). It seems unlikely that iPods will see major revisions in the near future, though minor storage increases are always possible. iMacs have also been seen relatively recent and significant updates, and could also be comfortably purchased at this time.
Recommendations for Cinema Displays, Mac Minis, Apple TV, MacBook and iPhone are trickier due to individual circumstances and are dealt with separately:
Cinema Displays, Mac Minis - historical data for these updates are inconsistent, with rumors of Mac Mini's possibly being discontinued in the near future. Cinema Displays infrequently get major upgrades, and instead get intermittent price drops. Readers may find greater value in 3rd party LCDs at this time.
MacBook - Despite a November 2007 update, the MacBook could see competition with the Apple Sub-notebook expected at Macworld in January. So, unless you are certain that this ultra-portable will not change your decision, it would be best to wait to buy a MacBook until January 15th.
iPhone, AppleTV - as new consumer electronic devices, Apple has not yet defined the frequency of these updates. Apple TV's future remains entirely open ended as Apple could decide to simply leave its specs stable for some time as it represents an "appliance" device rather than an ongoing platform. However, being a year since its introduction, we would buy cautiously.
The iPhone, however, has more pressure to receive timely updates due to ongoing competition. The iPhone is rumored to see its next major revision in Mid-to-Late 2008. The biggest upgrade expected is a 3G chipset which has been promised for 2008. Whether or not to buy an iPhone now really depends on the your individual need for 3G and if potentially waiting until late 2008 is feasible.
Top Rated Comments
(View all)54 months ago
One thing to note about the iPhone is that since it is not subsidized... you don't have to worry as much about buying the next one. It's the same price if you are a new customer or old. You would simply just move your SIM card from your old iPhone to your new one if you decide to upgrade in a year.
arn
arn
54 months ago
Wish I had a real Time Machine to fast forward one month!!! I want to switch to Mac NOW!!! But I'm waiting...and it's going to suck big time if the new MBPs will not ship until February :(
54 months ago
Arn-
Any thoughts on if a 16GB iPhone would be introduced at MWSF? May be not replacing the 8GB but a 16GB priced @ $500?
Any thoughts on if a 16GB iPhone would be introduced at MWSF? May be not replacing the 8GB but a 16GB priced @ $500?
54 months ago
Yeah so that explains why the store was down today - to list the configurations that are available for 24 hour shipping. I remember that from previous years. I like that change to the store.
I'm waiting to see what 1/15 brings for MBP's :D
I'm waiting to see what 1/15 brings for MBP's :D
54 months ago
Arn-
Any thoughts on if a 16GB iPhone would be introduced at MWSF? May be not replacing the 8GB but a 16GB priced @ $500?
I don't think there have any been reliable reports of it. Maybe a couple of analyst guesses. I don't know if there's much merit in it.
arn
54 months ago
Anybody know the longest interval between "real" updates?
(I'd rather call the intro of the 8-cores Mac Pro's as a product line expansion than an upgrade. You can still buy the same Mac Pro now as of August 17th 2006 for the same price).
One can argue that the G4 running @ 400 MHz was introduced August 1999, and finally ditched January 2001. But, that product did get a little update... Gb ethernet...
The 500 MHz version was also introduced in August 1999, but then was lowered to 450 MHz, and later re-introduced but famously with a twin: the Dual 500 MHz G4.
So, IIRC this Mac Pro is the longest living non-upgraded Mac after Steve made it back to Apple..?
(I'd rather call the intro of the 8-cores Mac Pro's as a product line expansion than an upgrade. You can still buy the same Mac Pro now as of August 17th 2006 for the same price).
One can argue that the G4 running @ 400 MHz was introduced August 1999, and finally ditched January 2001. But, that product did get a little update... Gb ethernet...
The 500 MHz version was also introduced in August 1999, but then was lowered to 450 MHz, and later re-introduced but famously with a twin: the Dual 500 MHz G4.
So, IIRC this Mac Pro is the longest living non-upgraded Mac after Steve made it back to Apple..?
54 months ago
I would call it very unlikely to see the iPhone go to 8 and 16 since the price drop, along with the fact that the iPod Touch is 8 and 16 giving some differentiation. For the iPhone to move up, so would the Touch which seems unlikely that 16 and 32s would be available at the current 8 and 16 price points.
Best buys right now point to iPods and iMacs for sure. I think the same can definitely be said for iPhones as 3G is still 7-8+ months away if not longer. The Apple TV is a good product and while there could be changes, it complements a Mac quite well.
The higher end Mac Pros and MacBook Pros are the biggest do not buys for sure. And the MacBook is definitely a judgement call b/c of the ultracompact rumors.
Good roundup Arn.
Best buys right now point to iPods and iMacs for sure. I think the same can definitely be said for iPhones as 3G is still 7-8+ months away if not longer. The Apple TV is a good product and while there could be changes, it complements a Mac quite well.
The higher end Mac Pros and MacBook Pros are the biggest do not buys for sure. And the MacBook is definitely a judgement call b/c of the ultracompact rumors.
Good roundup Arn.
54 months ago
Maybe you should implement a standard deviation-based algorithm for the buying advice comments. It would smooth out the uncertain predictability of things like displays and :apple:TV... not to mention give a more realistic responce than "DON'T BUY!" when the current release period meets or exceeds the average.
It'll give a good statistical look at the probability of release. Looking at it from further back, on the first day of the unit's debut, it has a 50% chance of being renewed again before the average release cycle and 50% chance of being renewed afterward.
Then if the standard deviation is 15 days, it'll be 84% likely that it will be refreshed in (avg cycle) + 15 days, 97.7% likely that it'll be released in (avg cycle) + 15 days + 15 days, etc.
I think it'd be more valuable for users to see this sort of a statistical look at the buyer's guide... but will have the drawback of giving analysts more meaningless spew-age.
Think about it.
-Clive
It'll give a good statistical look at the probability of release. Looking at it from further back, on the first day of the unit's debut, it has a 50% chance of being renewed again before the average release cycle and 50% chance of being renewed afterward.
Then if the standard deviation is 15 days, it'll be 84% likely that it will be refreshed in (avg cycle) + 15 days, 97.7% likely that it'll be released in (avg cycle) + 15 days + 15 days, etc.
I think it'd be more valuable for users to see this sort of a statistical look at the buyer's guide... but will have the drawback of giving analysts more meaningless spew-age.
Think about it.
-Clive
54 months ago
I would call it very unlikely to see the iPhone go to 8 and 16 since the price drop, along with the fact that the iPod Touch is 8 and 16 giving some differentiation. For the iPhone to move up, so would the Touch which seems unlikely that 16 and 32s would be available at the current 8 and 16 price points.
You guys are probably right on the iPhone. I'll hold off until Jan anyway to see what happens. One can still hope I guess. I would just hate to buy now and have them throw that curve ball at MWSF. They already did it once with the price drop.
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